05-11-2019, 07:13 PM
(05-11-2019, 08:24 AM)David Horn Wrote:(05-10-2019, 07:53 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: PBR did you miss my point naturally or did you have to work at it?
The point isn't if Japan and/or South Korea are high stress societies. The point is that people who want to kill themselves, for whatever reason(s) will do so. The availability of a firearm is not a factor.
No the US doesn't have bullet trains but most states that have large cities (Florida being one of them, and yes we're pushing for Open Carry here and DeSantis supports it--personally I want Constitutional Carry) have commuter rail. Just hop in front of one of those. No commuter rail? A freight train will do. Failing that any car or truck will do.
Still too messy? Raid granny's medicine cabinet and take all the pills. Find yourself a rope.
People who want to off themselves will do so. They can't be stopped really. And honestly I don't really want them to be stopped. The gene pool needs to be chlorinated from time to time.
I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post because it is a repeat of a repeat of a repeat. You already know what I think in that regard or can at least guess at it if you're half as smart as you think you are.
I highlighted what is demonstrably wrong. Most suicide attempts are regretted when they fail, and second attempts are rare. Firearms almost entirely eliminate the potential for failure -- unlike every other method. So yes, firearms are a huge continuing factor.
This is well known by the CDC, among many other entities. The CDC is banned from making this widely known to the less-informed 'many' by intense opposition from the NRA. Go figure.
Sauce or you're lying. About both the CDC being banned from releasing this information or that the CDC even has statistics on how many people regret suicide attempts and can separate those who regret failing to kill themselves and those who actually regret attempting in the first place.
I'll wait.
It really is all mathematics.
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