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Gray Champion Predictions
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(05-29-2019, 08:37 AM)freivolk Wrote:
(05-22-2019, 06:35 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(05-20-2019, 11:40 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Australia, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy, Spain, Greece, and Japan would seem to be on roughly the same timelines. Arguably India. Countries that went Commie between 1946 and 1949 would seem to be a bit delayed, as might South Korea (Korean War). The former Yugoslavia and current Rwanda have obviously gone through Crisis eras -- if I were looking to be in a post-Crisis world, I would go with Croatia or Slovenia now.

Australia (and by extension New Zealand) are anglophone Western countries and fall more in line with the Big Three Anglophone countries.  US, Canada, UK.

France, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, Spain are all Western European.  Greece should be on a separate time line but I think perhaps they were jerked into a more Western mold by WW2 than the rest of Eastern Europe being that they were more exposed to the West after kicking out the Ottomans than otherwise.

Japan is on a similar timeline but only coincidentally--the Japanese are western only in that they like business suits and cell phones, they are still thoroughly Japanese.  South Korea is on the Japanese line, though delayed about five or six years.  Like the Japanese the South Koreans are thoroughly Korean.

Yugoslavia went through a 4T in the 1990s as did all of Eastern Europe including Russia.  As I said in previous posts the Slavic and Slavic-Orthodox countries in particular are a different civilization from the West and thus on a different timeline.

Rwanda has had a 4T and the rest of Central Africa is still in it, but it is fading.  East Africa's 4T is over or nearly so as there is talk of forming an East African Federation.  Rwanda intends to join, and they are actively seeking Chinese investment to rapidly industrialize as Ethiopia and Kenya are doing.  The next Sweatshop of the World will not be in Asia unless India decides it doesn't want to be the world's call center, the rest of Asia simply isn't populous enough but Africa is untapped cheap labor.

India seems poised to leapfrog industrial development because their lingua franca is English.  This means that where cheap labor is required for white collar work, it can be outsourced to India.
Different cultures doesn´t mean, that your clocks running on different time. The West forced his time on the world. Details can differ, but basicly we have now a global 4T and we also had one 1929-1949. You can pray to your shinto-gods all days, if the NewYork-stock-market crashs you still have a crisis and if the USA starts throwing nukes at you, you better hope the crisis end.
Mostly agree with this, except for the middle part. The last 4T wasn't truly global, I agree w/ Kinser on Russia's Turnings, but this one may well rip all other countries into a maelstrom.
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Gray Champion Predictions - by jleagans - 11-14-2018, 04:58 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Marypoza - 11-14-2018, 05:17 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 11-14-2018, 05:34 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by jleagans - 11-15-2018, 06:38 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 11-15-2018, 06:56 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 11-15-2018, 07:59 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Marypoza - 11-16-2018, 04:21 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by sbarrera - 11-16-2018, 09:03 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Marypoza - 11-16-2018, 11:51 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by sbarrera - 11-16-2018, 09:07 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by jleagans - 03-18-2019, 12:52 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 03-19-2019, 09:36 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 04-12-2019, 02:17 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 04-25-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Hintergrund - 05-14-2019, 08:49 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Kinser79 - 05-15-2019, 01:43 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 05-15-2019, 03:30 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Hintergrund - 05-18-2019, 07:28 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 05-19-2019, 04:08 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Kinser79 - 05-20-2019, 09:26 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 05-20-2019, 10:55 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 04-27-2019, 07:21 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Kinser79 - 04-30-2019, 08:21 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 04-30-2019, 10:18 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 04-30-2019, 10:45 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Kinser79 - 04-30-2019, 01:22 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 04-30-2019, 03:59 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 05-01-2019, 02:42 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Kinser79 - 04-30-2019, 05:29 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 05-01-2019, 12:29 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 05-19-2019, 09:34 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 05-19-2019, 06:29 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Hintergrund - 05-19-2019, 02:22 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 05-19-2019, 06:13 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Hintergrund - 05-19-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Kinser79 - 05-20-2019, 11:29 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 05-20-2019, 11:40 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Kinser79 - 05-22-2019, 06:35 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by freivolk - 05-29-2019, 08:37 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Kinser79 - 05-30-2019, 10:54 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by freivolk - 05-30-2019, 02:16 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Hintergrund - 05-31-2019, 06:54 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by freivolk - 06-01-2019, 07:45 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 05-29-2019, 06:25 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by freivolk - 05-30-2019, 03:29 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 05-30-2019, 07:02 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 05-31-2019, 01:15 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 06-01-2019, 08:26 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Hintergrund - 06-01-2019, 09:28 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by freivolk - 06-02-2019, 01:16 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Skabungus - 06-19-2019, 08:26 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 06-25-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 06-25-2019, 09:29 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 06-26-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 06-30-2019, 03:50 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Warren Dew - 06-30-2019, 06:21 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 05-20-2020, 05:49 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 05-20-2020, 09:51 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Kinser79 - 05-20-2020, 09:53 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 05-21-2020, 04:15 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by TnT - 07-09-2020, 01:57 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 07-09-2020, 03:24 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-10-2020, 12:49 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 06-26-2019, 04:23 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bill the Piper - 06-27-2019, 12:54 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 06-27-2019, 01:21 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bill the Piper - 06-28-2019, 01:18 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 06-28-2019, 06:55 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bill the Piper - 06-30-2019, 02:48 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 06-27-2019, 06:42 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bill the Piper - 06-30-2019, 03:13 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 06-30-2019, 11:56 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by LPDec63 - 05-20-2020, 11:03 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-10-2020, 01:06 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by User3451 - 07-09-2020, 08:18 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-10-2020, 12:57 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by User3451 - 07-10-2020, 09:38 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-10-2020, 10:45 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 07-11-2020, 06:16 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by User3451 - 07-11-2020, 11:48 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 07-12-2020, 07:11 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 07-13-2020, 12:27 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by jleagans - 08-07-2020, 12:50 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 08-07-2020, 11:13 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 08-07-2020, 10:50 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by jleagans - 08-13-2020, 03:36 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by RadianMay - 08-13-2020, 07:14 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 08-14-2020, 11:25 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-10-2020, 06:50 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 07-10-2020, 07:54 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by User3451 - 07-10-2020, 09:49 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-11-2020, 01:29 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by GeekyCynic - 07-11-2020, 03:09 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-11-2020, 03:26 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 07-11-2020, 06:48 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by TnT - 07-11-2020, 11:59 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 07-12-2020, 07:08 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-12-2020, 11:22 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 07-13-2020, 11:38 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by User3451 - 07-12-2020, 08:34 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-12-2020, 09:26 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 07-12-2020, 10:22 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 07-13-2020, 11:46 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-14-2020, 06:30 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 07-14-2020, 01:22 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-15-2020, 09:11 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 07-15-2020, 10:19 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-15-2020, 11:32 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 08-07-2020, 11:10 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 07-14-2020, 02:03 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by GeekyCynic - 07-12-2020, 01:11 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-12-2020, 02:36 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 07-13-2020, 11:39 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by GeekyCynic - 07-12-2020, 05:36 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by jleagans - 08-17-2020, 06:48 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 08-18-2020, 12:38 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by TnT - 08-21-2020, 06:38 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 08-22-2020, 07:46 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by TnT - 08-23-2020, 01:20 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 08-23-2020, 06:46 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 08-18-2020, 11:15 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by RadianMay - 08-18-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 08-19-2020, 09:12 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by TnT - 08-21-2020, 06:42 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-21-2020, 09:58 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by TnT - 08-22-2020, 02:30 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-22-2020, 05:47 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by jleagans - 08-27-2020, 03:21 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by JasonBlack - 03-17-2022, 04:19 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 03-17-2022, 05:01 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 03-18-2022, 09:01 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by JasonBlack - 03-18-2022, 08:00 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 03-19-2022, 08:50 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by JasonBlack - 03-19-2022, 09:27 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 03-20-2022, 02:51 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 03-20-2022, 03:05 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by David Horn - 03-20-2022, 08:18 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by JasonBlack - 03-20-2022, 02:22 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Eric the Green - 03-20-2022, 04:58 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Anthony '58 - 08-31-2022, 11:08 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 08-31-2022, 12:20 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by Anthony '58 - 08-31-2022, 01:09 PM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by pbrower2a - 09-01-2022, 04:56 AM
RE: Gray Champion Predictions - by JasonBlack - 09-01-2022, 12:49 PM
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