Scientism

[Bill the Piper]

(07-13-2019, 01:42 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: The question Brian Greene raised in his PBS doc (linked in the post above) was why if all the smallest things in nature are so "chaotic" and impossible to fix in one place, and seem to be in many places at once, why do larger things seem to stay in one place? I don't think from a consciousness point of view, that human beings can be fixed to one location. He used the example of us humans, but all the larger things seem to stay in one location and not several places at once. But that is likely because at the larger scale, the probabilities easily average out to the place that we see them in. The other thing about quantum theory though, is that amazingly enough, the equations about these chaotic probabilities are exact enough to be used to create all the high tech of the 20th century. So quantum theory seems to apply to all these things on the larger scale that we use every day. Greene's doc said that if it were not for quantum theory, our technology would be stuck in the 19th century.

But materialists are not satisfied with all this, and still want to explain away the "chaos." They use the "many worlds" interpretation to suggest (but not prove at all) that the quantum "particles" that exist in many places at once in our world, are actually located in one place in many separate alternate universes. But actually, as their application to high tech proves, it is the probabilities that are perfectly real, and that all exist in our world, and it is measurement that is the illusion. In reality, philosophers have always known that the location of moving objects can't be fixed and measured. That's the truth in Zeno's Paradox. It is a distortion to claim that quantum probability waves can be fixed to a location. Calling them "particles" (when they are actually quantum energy states) is false to begin with. They are only "particles in one location" when we succumb to the illusion that we can measure them.

Still, the relationship between the probabilities and the measurement is a basic equation in quantum mechanics called Planck's constant, so measurement does have its place. That measurement is also called our observation or awareness of them, which remains fuzzy until we try to pin it down.

My idea is that we reached the point of discovering phenomena which cannot be explained by basic human intelligence. We cannot grasp them for the same reason a cat cannot understand the Pythagorean theorem.

And when future more intelligent augmented humans figure it out, they will be able to explain it to basics only by means of a metaphor, which for us will look like mysticism or magic.