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A broken cycle?
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(07-18-2019, 04:03 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: Could society go back to 3T mood rather than proceed to 1T after an unsuccessful 4T?

I think it is a possibility, in the early 2010s there was some regeneracy with all the futurism going on and interest in reorganising the economy. But since about 2015 it mostly died down and 90s nostalgia became prominent. Sander's campaign was perhaps the last "progressive" event in America. Worst aspects of gen X culture seemed to vanish between 2006 and 2014, but with the wave of 90s nostalgia they are back. Fashion is uglier again, and the movies are increasingly dark and cynical. Is the Anglosphere heading back into 3T?

Sure it can. But since there would be a social moment turning in between the 1990's turning and the one after this one we would probably see them as different kinds of recessive turnings, although the mood could be similar.  

For example, when I proposed a the possibility of a six turning saeculum to some former T4Ters one of them came up with the term "Crusade" for a social moment turnings that is neither a Spiritual Awakening nor a Secular Crisis, and "Recovery" for a recessive turning that is neither a High or an Unraveling. With this nomenclature, the Civil War saeculum turnings would be Recovery, Awakening, High, Crusade, Unraveling, Crisis.  For the present saeculum, if the current turning does not pan out as a Crisis, we might see the first four turnings as High, Awakening, Recovery, Crusade, and the next turning as an Unraveling leading to a Crisis I probably won't live to see.

And I would suggest that the Great Power saeculum's four turnings would be a Recovery, Awakening, Unraveling, Crisis. Since unrest and polarization remained high after the Civil War 4T, it wasn't really a High, but things had settled down relative to the war.
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A broken cycle? - by Bill the Piper - 07-18-2019, 04:03 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-18-2019, 08:25 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Bill the Piper - 07-18-2019, 11:22 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by AspieMillennial - 07-18-2019, 09:46 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-18-2019, 01:11 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Bill the Piper - 07-18-2019, 02:54 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-19-2019, 03:37 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-18-2019, 11:43 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Bill the Piper - 07-18-2019, 11:49 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-19-2019, 03:32 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Bill the Piper - 07-19-2019, 03:40 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-19-2019, 08:08 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Warren Dew - 07-19-2019, 01:21 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-22-2019, 10:22 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by AspieMillennial - 07-19-2019, 11:07 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-20-2019, 10:13 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Warren Dew - 07-20-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-19-2019, 06:06 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-20-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-21-2019, 09:14 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-20-2019, 03:05 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-21-2019, 11:12 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-21-2019, 01:42 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-22-2019, 10:44 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-22-2019, 11:40 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-22-2019, 11:53 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-22-2019, 05:46 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-23-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-24-2019, 11:30 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-24-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-24-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-26-2019, 01:32 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-26-2019, 04:20 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-29-2019, 10:24 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-24-2019, 12:10 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by tg63 - 07-26-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-26-2019, 01:30 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-22-2019, 05:35 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-23-2019, 08:38 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-24-2019, 01:13 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-24-2019, 12:53 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-26-2019, 08:59 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-29-2019, 12:03 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Ragnarök_62 - 07-29-2019, 01:01 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-29-2019, 02:39 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Ragnarök_62 - 07-29-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Marypoza - 08-14-2019, 03:20 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Cynic Hero '86 - 07-29-2019, 12:08 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-29-2019, 01:23 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-29-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-29-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-29-2019, 02:35 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-30-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-30-2019, 11:51 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-29-2019, 11:01 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by AspieMillennial - 08-01-2019, 01:11 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by beechnut79 - 08-01-2019, 09:17 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 08-01-2019, 10:21 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by beechnut79 - 08-01-2019, 10:29 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 08-01-2019, 10:39 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 08-01-2019, 02:56 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Hintergrund - 08-14-2019, 08:55 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 08-14-2019, 02:41 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Hintergrund - 08-19-2019, 07:36 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 08-20-2019, 08:49 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Hintergrund - 08-22-2019, 08:18 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by AspieMillennial - 08-20-2019, 12:33 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 08-21-2019, 07:22 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by beechnut79 - 08-21-2019, 09:49 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 08-22-2019, 06:24 AM

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