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A broken cycle?
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About the fifth horseman, I have been thinking about Pluto today. So why not share my thoughts?

It occurred to me about the discovery of Pluto, which happened almost immediately after the great crash in 1929 which brought about the Great Depression. This was NOT like other depressions and recessions. This was an event unprecedented since the fall of civilizations in millennia past, like the Roman or Byzantine empires. As it developed in the early 30s, there was no future except free fall into poverty and chaos for almost all people. No such Depression had ever occurred before. Capitalism had failed. Liberal democracy as it had been known could not deal with it. It required an accretion of group power, which is what Pluto came to represent. In the USA, this was the democratic socialism of the New Deal. In Russia, it was the great plans under Stalin. In Germany it was Hitler's Nazi regime. Only socialism or fascism of various types could get us out of this mess. It was the exact opposite of liberalism's ideal that the best government is the one that governs least.

So since then the two parties in America and many elsewhere have been divided between the original liberals (now conservatives and neo-liberals) and the new social liberals. And the world divided for 45 years between liberal capitalism and totalitarian communism. Socialism had been the rising trend and increasingly taking power since the 1890s. But in the 1930s it was put into effect.

Every 4T, I think, includes an economic recession or depression severe enough to help plunge the nation into the political crisis that follows. I think economic problems help spur on the colonists revolt against the king's taxes. The recession of 1857 may have been the worst up to that time. The 1929 and 2008 crashes we all know. Since Pluto's discovery, then, these depressions in 1929 and 2008 put the issue of the power of government squarely on the table. In the 1930s, there had been virtually no government power sufficient enough to help structure the economy and society, so once the need was glaringly obvious, it was established.

But this is the second time around. There was a neo-liberal revival to which half our country is now loyal. And it has naturally mixed with ethnic issues. So this time it's more complicated, and with Neptune's return to its place in the 1850s, a divided nation and an inability to compromise has returned as well, and has become the nature of the crisis itself; just further intensified by the preceding crash of 2008, which was handled better than the one of 1929 because enough government had been put in place since 1930 to deal with it. At least what was left after the neo-liberal revival (which arguably had caused the recession).

And there's another wrinkle in this picture, because Pluto is unique among discovered planets. It is unique in that it took 48 years to really discover it. Only when Charon was discovered, and Pluto's status as a fully-binary planet was confirmed, did we even know what Pluto was. Several resulting trends happened during Pluto's long period of discovery, and are symbolized by it. The nature of Pluto as a binary planet itself indicates the two phases of Pluto's discovery, and its 2-sided nature.

First of all, Charon's discovery in 1978 coincided with the rising power of the neo-liberal movement and its social conservative ally. This has resulted in our current political stalemate.

Second, Pluto's conjunction with Uranus which defines "the sixties" was the first such conjunction among invisible planets since all 3 were known. This era of the early blue Awakening resulted in the two new movements (along with the need for government to deal with economic inequality and breakdowns already shown in the Great Depression and New Deal) that are pushing the other side of the stalemate: first, the civil rights and black power movement pushing for ethnic identity and post-modern pro-diversity movements and liberation from discrimination movements. These ethnic movements help push the reaction on the other side too. And second, what is also associated with the nature of Pluto itself, the environmental and ecology movement and the growing threats of pollution and climate change posed by our industrial lifestyle and its use of fossil fuels. And so combined together, this is called the Green New Deal, proposed by the Green Party (the first Green parties were founded at the time of Charon's discovery), and its USA presidential candidate Jill Stein, and now adopted by factions in the congress.

And so, the battle lines are drawn, and the Revolution is about to happen, as Pluto returns to its place in 1776 in the year 2022.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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A broken cycle? - by Bill the Piper - 07-18-2019, 04:03 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-18-2019, 08:25 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Bill the Piper - 07-18-2019, 11:22 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by AspieMillennial - 07-18-2019, 09:46 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-18-2019, 01:11 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Bill the Piper - 07-18-2019, 02:54 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-19-2019, 03:37 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-18-2019, 11:43 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Bill the Piper - 07-18-2019, 11:49 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-19-2019, 03:32 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Bill the Piper - 07-19-2019, 03:40 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-19-2019, 08:08 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Warren Dew - 07-19-2019, 01:21 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-22-2019, 10:22 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by AspieMillennial - 07-19-2019, 11:07 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-20-2019, 10:13 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Warren Dew - 07-20-2019, 10:08 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-19-2019, 06:06 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-20-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-21-2019, 09:14 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-20-2019, 03:05 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-21-2019, 11:12 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-21-2019, 01:42 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-22-2019, 10:44 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-22-2019, 11:40 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-22-2019, 11:53 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-22-2019, 05:46 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-23-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-24-2019, 11:30 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-24-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-24-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-26-2019, 01:32 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 07-26-2019, 04:20 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-29-2019, 10:24 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-24-2019, 12:10 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by tg63 - 07-26-2019, 12:18 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-26-2019, 01:30 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-22-2019, 05:35 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-23-2019, 08:38 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-24-2019, 01:13 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-24-2019, 12:53 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-26-2019, 08:59 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-29-2019, 12:03 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Ragnarök_62 - 07-29-2019, 01:01 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-29-2019, 02:39 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Ragnarök_62 - 07-29-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Marypoza - 08-14-2019, 03:20 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Cynic Hero '86 - 07-29-2019, 12:08 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-29-2019, 01:23 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 07-29-2019, 01:35 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-29-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-29-2019, 02:35 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 07-30-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-30-2019, 11:51 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Eric the Green - 07-29-2019, 11:01 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by AspieMillennial - 08-01-2019, 01:11 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by beechnut79 - 08-01-2019, 09:17 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 08-01-2019, 10:21 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by beechnut79 - 08-01-2019, 10:29 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by David Horn - 08-01-2019, 10:39 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 08-01-2019, 02:56 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Hintergrund - 08-14-2019, 08:55 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Mikebert - 08-14-2019, 02:41 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Hintergrund - 08-19-2019, 07:36 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 08-20-2019, 08:49 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by Hintergrund - 08-22-2019, 08:18 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by AspieMillennial - 08-20-2019, 12:33 PM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 08-21-2019, 07:22 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by beechnut79 - 08-21-2019, 09:49 AM
RE: A broken cycle? - by pbrower2a - 08-22-2019, 06:24 AM

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