07-08-2016, 12:34 PM
(07-08-2016, 10:11 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: I know I've gone a few rounds with various members here regarding whether or not this is a CW 4T. My opinion is generally not. We don't have either a serious sectional dispute (unless you look at the county vs county level) nor do we have the type of intense class warfare we saw last century in Europe and to a lesser extent Asia.
I don't think so quite yet, and we have a good chance to avoid civil war two.
But the divisions are real and major. It is almost sectional, given the landslide margins in elections between red and blue states. And it's true this is even starker between red and blue counties, and frequently rural vs. urban. But just because the territory is not as clearly marked as in 1860, it doesn't mean we aren't less divided and polarized.
Quote:But do we perhaps have something else?
This whole situation of militarization of police, and, police escalating to deadly force, seems to have reached a boiling point. Now, although not well advised, it looks like at least some of the lone wolves are shooting back.
Potential complicating factor - infiltration of Nazi / White Nationalist elements into law enforcement.
Discuss!!!
What is happening is truly tragic and mind-boggling. Perhaps Bob's "spiral of violence" is escalating. We have tragic mass shootings, which are becoming more and more racial and culturally-directed. The crazies and the angries of all kinds are able to make themselves heavily armed, thanks to American obsession with guns and free-access to them. We have the police patrolling neighborhoods in fear of all these crazies, angries and gangs with guns, tending to often shoot first and ask questions later. And they literally get away with murder. We have endemic racial profiling and injustice, resulting in tremendous anger at the police, especially in black communities. Conservative pundits even say that Martin Luther King Jr. would be "appalled" at the black lives matter movement, when it's obvious he'd be leading it, and justifiably so.
There's a number of factors that could lead to a rebellion, even if such a rebellion/CW is brief or easily put down. We have a great need for people to learn how to vote, and to recognize that the Party that is blocking all progress MUST be defeated in order for our country to move forward in resolving these endemic problems. This party can't be compromised or worked with; the people must get hip to what's happening, and come out on election day and vote them out. Otherwise, the spiral of violence will continue to escalate, who knows to what level.