To impeach, or not to impeach

[Classic-Xer]

(10-07-2019, 12:51 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(10-05-2019, 12:02 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Personally, I didn't really care about Clinton, his affair with Monica or the hardship it may have caused for his greedy self serving wife either. Also, I wasn't surprised that he lied or fudged the truth while under oath either. I mean, he was slick Willy for Christ's sake and slick Willy as we know was used to doing shit and used to getting away with shit. Dude, Clinton was a scum bag at the core. His wife was a scum bag at the core too. Anthony Wiener was another scum bag at the core. I'll take a superficial slime as you say over a scum bag at the core any day. Just so you know, Obama was a superficial slime as well. I guess you and every other clueless blue recruiter better come to grips with the fact that the reds ain't as dumb you think or as you've been taught or as you hoped or as you believe and the reds themselves are more capable of defeating/ destroying you than any group of Republicans in Washington DC. The 60 some million who voted for Trump in 2016 are the Americans that you don't ever want to piss off or alienate because that group has the balls and the power to bring the pukes in Washington and the pukes in the pukes cities to their knees and eliminate them without touching them. Dude, as long as the Progressives appear to be isolated and mostly contained as far as their power, you can expect see more Democrats in office like in 2018.

Assuming I understand your point here, you're arguing that Obama was slimy and Trump is slimy, but both Clintons are total scumbags.  Well, I'm no Clintonite, so I'm not going to defend them, but a quick note about Obama: there were no scandals during his entire 8 years in office.  I take offense with that one.  I take greater offense at the argument that Mafia Don is on similar footing. This guy is single handedly destroying the effectiveness of the entire nation, ordering torture for people he doesn't like and throwing allies in arms under the bus.  A Democrat doing even half of what he's done would be labeled a traitor by every Republican in the country.

So you seem to be saying that he can do no wrong, even when he commits felonies, because he's your guy.  H-m-m-m.  You might be well advised to take a look in the mirror and decide just how low you wish to go with this scumbag.

I'd say it's the Progressives who are/ have been trying to destroy the effectiveness of the nation more than it's Trump at this point in my life. Dude, if Trump was more of a Progressive, you'd love the guy. I say that because he's the type of Progressive leader that you've been telling us you'd prefer and believe is needed for Progressives to prevail and change America. If the issue with Trump isn't viewed as being an issue with the working class voters who tend to vote Republican or those who exclusively vote for Trump/support Trump, the Republicans aren't going to support impeachment. You see the the thirty some percent that Trump has the support of right now is actually 75% of the entire Republican base. Me, I'm not a big fan of Trump or a working class voter but I am still a member of the entire Republican base. Basically, I'd be in the some what agree group that Eric lumped in with the strongly agree to form his view of there's a strong majority in favor of impeaching Trump.