To impeach, or not to impeach

[Classic-Xer]

(10-12-2019, 05:34 PM)taramarie Wrote:

(10-12-2019, 05:00 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(10-11-2019, 10:42 PM)taramarie Wrote:

(10-11-2019, 10:02 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: It's really simple. As it is with people whose skin color, physiognomy, theology, national origin, handicap, social status, or gender -- respect the person whose sexual preference is different from yours by respecting that person for shared humanity instead of the obvious difference.

Can this be said for political difference as well out of sheer curiousity and a tongue in cheek moment....otherwise I agree except for certain people like narcissists who make this VERY difficult. I have my future mother in law in mind. Yes she is an actual narcissist unfortunately who is obsessed with tight control over everyone. Can I respect that difference? Not to the point it destroys those around her. My philosophy is live and let live so long as you aren't harming others.

I dunno, you have had the opportunity see the differences and exchanges between a modern day American Traditional Conservative and a group of foreign minded/ influences Progressives who just happen to live in America. My tongue and cheek response, it sure would be nice if there was a magical love potion or heavenly mist or a massive bong or opium pipe pumping out smoke but I don't think so. No, unfortunately, we are on the verge of going to war in the modern day era the good old fashioned American way. 

Yes, the Progressives are capable of shouting down a portion of a blue city or a federal freeway running through a blue city or instigating large scale rioting within blue areas or picking on/ smearing some subordinate public official and slowing down something/ temporally stopping something/ hampering something that's commonly viewed as important to our national interest, national security or common defense/national defense. As I've said, the progressives are in deep shit here and it's the Progressives who don't seem to get it, understand it, realize it or seem to care about it all at this point. Does your country have 60 some million people who are private people who are privately funded who own their own stuff who receive the least and require little  as far as government support who  pay the most as far as taxes who are politically connected to a national party known as the GOP/Republican   that knows them and appreciates that about  them and still honors an agreement made a few hundred that we refer to as our Constitution and honor the flag that we refer to as our flag. I'm helping you understand the true dynamics of American politics today.  

In America, it's the Progressives and their supporters, the retired Democrat  loyalists and the retired Republican party loyalists ( the Republican loyalist of old are kind of  split and feeling homeless at the moment) are the bulk of  ones who participate in most poles which is why the poles are often skewed in favor of the Democrats. The bulk of the Republican base and the American public in general has other more important/pressing things to do with its time than answering phones and participating in  polls.

Agree as I figured lets turn that response around by Paul B and make that interesting question in tongue in cheek because it was a cheeky thing to say, however its quite a reflective one these days from what I see goes on and it is loud enough for foreigners to hear and see it. I do agree with you that it will get worse. I believe USA will recover. But it may look quite different to how it was, naturally. 

I live on an island among a set of islands in the south pacific ocean. I believe we have around 4 million last I checked. May be approaching 5 million at best currently. But this you know. Soon I will be in Slovakia, in a couple months time once my ankle has fully recovered (recent surgery). So that will be an interesting difference for me being in Europe around far more people. Well as for what you mentioned however, with the RW govt it was those who are the most vulnerable who were having a variety of important things taken from them that help make life easier for them. With the left wing here they gave back the support for the most vulnerable and by that I mean for kids and for the elderly and to a certain degree stop demonizing those who need the help financially and by that I mean need it. Those like myself who snapped their ankle in half and needed help as I couldn't do my job as I needed surgery and had to stop working. Also help for those with mental health care. The RW shut down funding for those who needed mental healthcare so they literally closed down those areas in the hospitals here. My mother works in a hospital so I know all about it. So, here, the RW from what I have observed, take from the most vulnerable and give to the rich who are their voters, and the left wing who I have observed focus on giving it back to the most vulnerable who are their voters. They work with who their voters are here basically. 

" Does your country have 60 some million people who are private people who are privately funded who own their own stuff who receive the least and require little  as far as government support who  pay the most as far as taxes"

How does that work? That is very odd if true. 

It's true. Well, it works by defying conventional wisdom and raising national debt levels. Who is doing that? The Progressives, the Democrats and small group of Republicans in Washington that most of their base don't place much value on these days. How is that possible? The 60 some million knows itself, knows its countrymen, knows its system, knows its capabilities, knows it has a viable Constitution, knows it has an economic system that works for them, an army to call upon, an armed citizenship and the ability to simply repeat history and accomplish what has already been done in the past. The big hang up back then was the issue of slavery and the fact that our founding fathers were establishing and laying the foundation for a new nation unlike any other nation before from scratch.