To impeach, or not to impeach

[Eric the Green]

(10-14-2019, 06:21 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(10-14-2019, 01:02 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(10-13-2019, 10:40 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(10-12-2019, 10:02 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: It's amazing how you guys are still red baiting (even though metaphorically you guys are the reds now). You are still fighting against communism. Isn't that something of a dead horse now? What we've got in much of Asia now is state capitalism.

What do you expect, you guys are still promoting socialism/socialist ideology. You don't look/act like a dead horse.

Uh, I like some "socialist" stuff like roads, post office, cops, firemen, rules to keep Big Oil from violating my property rights (my body), and our private healthcare system is broken. I'll take Medicare now, which really should begin at age 0 instead of 65. Oh, yeah, I want my Social Security, cause I don't know how old I'll to be.

So, what do the Republicans have on offer?

Well, I don't associate road maintenance/constructions, law enforcement, the US postal service, firemen, military and so on with socialism. I don't even view Medicare and Social Security as socialist programs. However, I do view Medicare for all starting at birth or single payer as a socialist program. Me, I like the freedom to choose my healthcare provider and the freedom to choose another healthcare provider. I'm a private sector guy myself and I don't like the idea of being reliant on a bureaucratic system for all my healthcare needs.

And on that basis you call all Democrats "socialists?"

There is a range of opinion among Democrats on Medicare and healthcare. The Republicans want to take all Medicare and social security away and privatize roads, prisons, the postal service, etc.

I don't see any difference between medicare for seniors and medicare for all. What's the difference? If it works for older people, why not for everyone? Private insurance takes people off their insurance for no reason and jacks up rates and deductibles without cause or prior notice. Medicare allows me to choose my doctor.  Most insurance programs, I think, have networks and require you to choose someone in the network. There's no difference between private and public on that account. Just calling one bureaucratic, and the other one private sector, is just labeling. There is no difference between a public and private bureaucracy. Corporations are bureaucracies too, except they are owned by a few billionaires instead of by we the people.

If you don't call "medicare and social security, road maintenance/constructions, law enforcement, the US postal service, firemen" socialist , where do you draw the line? Why do you assume that all blue Democrats (and all Democrats are "blue") are communists, when what we advocate is a mixed system, and so do you?