11-04-2019, 04:09 AM
(07-14-2019, 09:29 AM)David Horn Wrote:(07-13-2019, 02:08 PM)Bill the Piper Wrote: My idea is that we reached the point of discovering phenomena which cannot be explained by basic human intelligence. We cannot grasp them for the same reason a cat cannot understand the Pythagorean theorem.
And when future more intelligent augmented humans figure it out, they will be able to explain it to basics only by means of a metaphor, which for us will look like mysticism or magic.
We already have quantum mechanics and multi-universe theory that is typically explained that way. In fact, most of modern physics lies just outside the intellectual grasp of the average person, so yes: metaphor.
When Arthur C. Clark noted that "sufficiently advance technology is indistinguishable from magic", he was merely noting the same concept you have here. The human mind is limited in many ways. To be honest, enhancement may not alter that as much as you think. After all, we already have people of average intelligence but great insight. It's a phenomenon only partially related correlated with intelligence at most, so enhancement may not apply.
You guys seem on the right track here, while Warren Dew's point of view is off track. Whatever math symbols exist, are also just metaphor. Every language and its every word is generalization and metaphor. The basic truth of reality is plain to see; the details are useful but not necessary to reality. And contrary to what Warren says, quantum theory explictly refutes physicalism, and any prediction that works based on quantum theory proves that physicalism is false. What we know is always affected by our own observation of it, as quantum theory proves. Quantum theory itself is not mysterious or chaotic at all. It is just chaotic to the extent that it challenges materialist assumptions.