11-08-2019, 12:36 PM
(11-08-2019, 09:14 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: (Had the idea during a PM conversation with @taramarie.)
As we know, people have characters typical for their generation not because of astrological influence, but because of the events that shaped them.
I'm thinking especially of the recessive Archetypes: Nomads and Artists.
Nomads are shaped by their messy, unprotected childhood and adults who are too incompetent to handle big events (or even not that big events).
Artists are shaped by overprotective parents, esp. mothers because the fathers are absent.
Maybe that's typical in the Anglosphere, but in continental Europe, there are exceptions because of the war.
That's why we have a Silent ("War-children") generation that was a typical Artist generation because their numbers are small, they were stuck between elder Heroes and younger "Prophets" - but in their childhood, they went through a big mess, like Nomads.
OTOH, not only there many people from Generation X grew up with single mothers, so while they're still stuck between elder "Prophets" and younger Heroes, they may be more artistically inclined and neurotic as usual for Nomads, and more like Artists in that regard.
We really should try to sort this out - find out which part of their characters was caused by their influences that made them Nomad- or Artist-like.
I see nothing at all to indicate that Gen X is "artistic" in the literal sense. Their music and their musical choices are, for the major part, total trash. But artists in the sense of adaptive and sensitive, and having a love for people? Artists because given to compromise, and their inheritance of positions in society? Gen X does not fit that set of criteria either. Gen X is probably more nomadic than usual because of the trend toward single mothers.
Meanwhile Gen Z does not yet have absent fathers. If that comes, it will happen after 2025 if there's a war then (if there's a major USA war, either civil or foreign or both, that's when it will happen), and the first prophets will already be being born, as in 1943-45, but some of the later/younger Gen Z children at that time will have absent fathers for a few years. But that will be a small group within the generation.
Astrology works, of course, in this regard, but the generation cycle can trump it (to coin a phrase). Those Gen Xers born in the sixties should have had some of that inspirational planetary conjunction of the sixties affecting their make-up and talent, but the Xer generational trends toward cynicism and pragmatism seemed to have blunted any trace of its influence in their charts. But perhaps some millennials born around 1990-1993 could have some aspects of genius in their make-up.
More generally, there was a tendency in some modern generations for prophets in America to be born under Uranus in self-directed and inward-turning signs Gemini through Leo, and civics to be born under Uranus in more collective-oriented signs Sagittarius through Aquarius. Even William Strauss, who didn't believe in astrology, was pleased to see that I associated the sign Aquarius with civics. Uranus is now in early Taurus, a position it occupies when artist generations are born.
But this timing only applied to the anglo-american saeculum, and probably to the western european saeculum, since they were somewhat in synch, but probably it did not apply to other nations and cultures. The correspondence to the saeculum was made, as I have pointed out here for 22 years, because the orbit of Uranus is 84 years long, which is exactly the length of a saeculum as defined in The Fourth Turning. As astrologers long noticed, the great 4th turning crisis climaxes coincided to Uranus' Return about every 84 years to its position at its two crisis birth moments: the founding of Jamestown and the Declaration of Independence. But other nations have birth moments at other times, and thus Uranus returns and thus 4Ts in different years.
The times people live in affect this correlation, however. Before the enlightenment era in the 18th century, the saeculum was at least 100 years long, according to the Generations/T4T authors. The term came from those in ancient Rome who noticed the 100-year cycle back then. So the Uranus correlation didn't apply. This is likely because, although its influence was there in a subconscious way, Uranus wasn't really a major or fully-realized factor in human affairs until just before it was discovered in 1781. And a rush of big changes which began the modern era accompanied and immediately followed its discovery that year. So Uranus represents the modern-era saeculum. Uranus in astrology has been found to represent democracy, revolution, invention, electricity, etc.. This is also because its cycle is the length of a normal human life, which fact provides the nature of both the saeculum (according to S&H) and the planet (according to astrology theorist Dane Rudhyar). And the two other outer planets Neptune and Pluto move in tandem with Uranus, providing a double and triple rhythm.
The other factor is the world wars and global technology and commerce, which have made nation states and their supposed cultures obsolete. We are a global society now, and the anglo-american seaculum has become the norm everywhere because of its supreme influence since the world wars. So I think the saeculum has now settled into the modern 84-year length according to the basic astrological pattern-- except that it may only coincide in its interpretation to the prophets and civics, while the nomads and artists are born at times corresponding to signs opposite to their nature.
Which is interesting, considering Hintergrund's question.