Neo-liberalism, the ideology that shackles us

[David Horn]

(11-19-2019, 12:40 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-18-2019, 05:52 PM)Anthony Wrote:

(11-01-2019, 05:24 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: That's a long time without fur.

It's ironic to see Eric the Red start this thread when the biggest proponent of neoconservatism in recent memory was Hillary Clinton, and the biggest proponents of neoliberalism were her donors.

In all fairness to Eric the Blue - which is what his moniker should be, at least since 2000 - is that, despite their seeming to be opposites, neoconservatism and neoliberalism substantially overlap, in that many if not most neoconartists, which is what I call them, do not harbor right-wing views on abortion, LGBTQ rights, etc.

I am still a registered Green, and I voted that way through the year 2012, although I obviously prefer Democrats to Republicans. I might become a Democrat again soon. I don't know for how long. I resonate strongly with the 10 key values of the Green Party. But leftists and greens at this point are getting crazier and I don't always see eye to eye with them as I did back in 2000.

But what you say may be true. They can be moderate, at least, on such social identity issues. In practice these days, all shades of conservatism including social conservatism and including neo-liberals are mostly lining up behind Trump, and Trump is doing their bidding.

Both neo-movements are essentially pro-oligarch and only differ a bit in the area of foreign policy and, to a much lesser degree, on how much sucking-up to economic power should be expected.  Reagan and Clinton were the co-architects, with GWB and BHO differing only in small degree.  When this changes, as it must, it will truly start a new cycle.  The question of the day: who and how?  That's still TBD, in my opinion.  A counter movement simply doesn't exist -- to any real extent at least.  A fire-breathing POTUS can't do it alone, and fire-breathers with any chance of winning are in short supply.  EW is the closest.  If she wins, let's hope she grows into the job. 

Still, where are the ground troops?  The House has a few, but the Senate is still a GOP stronghold, with little chance that will change.