To impeach, or not to impeach

[David Horn]

(11-26-2019, 10:17 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-26-2019, 03:46 PM)David Horn Wrote: We live in an ever changing world, and one where change is occurring at a faster pace than ever.  Try to align that with the judicial temperament that "originalists" claim to follow.  You can't and neither can they.  Case in point: the 2nd Amendment  was written to assure the right of ordinary citizens to keep arms in support of militias.  Never mind that we no longer have them, originalist Scalia found a tortured interpretation that manufactured an individual right without any justification.  I assume you agree with Scalia, but that ruling is almost certain to fall at some point -- soon I hope.  Another bizarre ruling is Citizens United that gave constitutional rights to corporations.  Really?  Does anyone think that corporations have speech rights other than that small coterie of RW Justices.  There are many other similar issues that Blue America has with the RW SCOTUS of today.  Give a few examples of things you see wrong in the opposite direction.

Yes. You are right again. We don't have to rely on militia's when we basically have organized State militia's that we simply refer to as our national guard these days. How are we supposed to support them/back them up or defend ourselves in times of need if we don't have access to the type of firearms that the lawless still seem to have plenty of access to for themselves these days? Why is it that the liberals spend so much time and effort trying to convince pass laws that disarm law abiding citizens instead of focusing more on disarming the lawless factions and the folks with serious mental issues these days.

You do realize that this is a non sequitur. Professional armies, even part-time professional armies, need civilians to butt out. You can't help. You have no idea how to do it. And how do you disarm all the bad people but leave all the good people fully armed? A bad person was good, right up to the time they weren't. And forget expecting "people who know them" to turn in mentally ill family and friends. They don't and they won't.

Classic-Xer Wrote:Now, the liberal who doesn't think/ know that corporations are able to think, speak, vote or do anything else that a human is capable of doing, is not considering or seriously taking into account that corporations are owned by humans, operated by humans, controlled by humans, financially backed by humans, invested in by humans and supported by humans.

Of course, those humans are insolated from personal responsivity and legal action be hiding behind the corporate shield. And also remember, the court said that money is speech. S CEO Joe decides to spend X Millions on something, and it goes bad. Well, too bad. Worse, the shareholders may be stuck with the bill.

Classic-Xer Wrote:In the stupid/ thoughtless liberal signs and liberal slogans in some customers homes. I've seen them speak to me like a human would normally speak to a human whom they know and respect without realizing that they were directly speaking with a person who represented an  American corporation. Yes. Scalia was smart/wise enough to figure out/realize the human connection with corporations and understand the direct connection between corporations and the humans who own them. For some reason, the liberals don't seem able to figure that out themselves or don't seem willing to recognize our rights to keep/protect them the same way as we would any of our property and defend them the same way we would defend any other valuable thing that we own.

Again, it's all about the money and power to use other peoples money to against their own interests.

Classic-Xer Wrote:As far as our individual right to have firearms, all you need to do is be able to read a short sentence written in plain English and be able to accept what you read as an important law of the land that has existed since the country was established. I dunno, you may be able to convince people born else where that America would be a safer place if they where to support liberal attempts to disarm us. Oh, I'm not so sure a so called living document that could be changed on a whim for whatever reason would be good long term. I mean, the freedom to remove and reinstate or add for this group and take away from that group as times change and situations change could create feelings of instability, cause social instability and result in chaos and violence.

Here, in full, is the 2nd Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." One sentence, including the justification clause at the beginning, can't be split in half to make a point.