To impeach, or not to impeach

[Eric the Green]

(11-27-2019, 02:43 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-26-2019, 11:48 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: You and your conservative buddies keep requiring us liberals to legally treat a corporation as a person with personal rights. A corporation is made up of humans who have rights. But those rights belong to them individually. A corporation is not a person and should not have rights conferred upon individuals. A corporation has a charter which requires certain things, and is registered with a state which requires certain things.

If we have a national guard, then that national guard is empowered to protect the nation. It needs no assistance from citizens, and citizens do not need to possess weapons that are made for armies. If you want to help protect the nation with arms, join the National Guard if you can. All semi-automatic weapons should not be allowed in the hands of citizens. This does not violate the constitution, which does not prohibit laws against particular kinds of military weapons being owned and used by civilians. If you want to assemble a militia for your civil war, you red folks would be well-advised to form your own state with its own rules. Otherwise you are sure to lose, and will probably lose anyway as your predecessors did 160 years ago.

Wow, I think of the civil war as being 100 years ago. It is now 160 years ago. Time flies when you're not having fun.

I dunno, would you mind if the FBI or any other agency had the freedom to seize your business at anytime for any reason without establishing  just cause and obtaining legal permission? I'm sure the business itself wouldn't mind or be upset but would you? Now, I can't speak for your business but my business wouldn't be better off without me in the picture. I'd assume  that your business would be better off  without you in the picture but I couldn't say it would for certain without speaking with your business. I dunno, the business may not care that you don't about it and place yourself above it in importance and so forth. I'm well aware of the formal/ legal process involved with establishing  corporations. I've yet to file one that didn't have me or the business that I own identified as the legal owner. How bout you, you claim to own one, did your business file itself and identify itself as the owner. I don't know who you're talking about but my predecessors won or tied  every American war they participated in dating back to the Revolutionary War. Hint, we don't have to break away and form a state like the liberals do. Dude, all that we have to do is keep what we already have firmly  established as nation and be willing to support those who currently living in liberal states who want their independence and prefer to remain American.

Are you talking about a business, or a corporation? A business can be owned by a person, which you implied with your words "seize your business." Corporations are owned by stockholders, run by a Board of Directors and operated by CEOs. None of the blue candidates or movements are talking about seizing businesses or corporations. 

Which side tries to secede will depend on which side is in power when changes are enacted that the other side considers unacceptable-- and which leaves this side with no recourse but to secede. It could happen and could be carried out by either side.

Every American such as yourself and myself who have had ancestors living in the colonies and the states for many generations probably have ancestors who fought in American wars. I do. Your use of phrases such as "prefer to remain American" reveal your view that people who disagree with your views on how to run the country are not American. But blues consider such phrases and views as themselves un-American. The red state and red county people have a view of what America is that sharply differs from what blue state and blue county people hold. So we are a divided people, and just how this plays out or is resolved will be largely decided in the course of the current fourth turning. Total stagnation and stalemate is not a sustainable situation when so much is at stake. The stalemate will be broken one way or another, and starting soon.