12-07-2019, 02:09 AM
(12-06-2019, 04:30 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: It looks to me like Zimbabwe has crises ending in the 1890s and 1980. That could still place it in a current awakening, but would make Mugabe a reactive rather than an Idealist. His being a reactive would be consistent with his corrupt and despotic rule.
I cant imagine Zimbabwe or anywhere else in Southern Africa, being on a different saeculum than South Africa.
Since I have studied Southern African history back to the 19th century and it seems to me that the turnings all across the region were happening at approximately at the same time. For example; the Mfecane period (1818-1828) of upheaval following the revolution which made the Zulu kingdom into a formable power, affected much of Southern Africa including Zimbabwe.
Also, I argue through observations (from speaking to friends who live in Nigeria and Uganda) by myself and another person who used to post on the Old Fourth Turning. There is good evidence that much of Sub-Saharan Africa is on roughly the same saeculum as South Africa, with their Awakenings only starting in the 2010s and their Prophet generations being seen as those born in the 1990s.