The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(12-08-2019, 12:43 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-07-2019, 02:48 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I was thinking though, given the effectiveness of the Lichtman Keys, and one of them is domestic unrest, that if it happens before Nov.2020 that could turn a key against Trump. So if the blacks get riled again by another police shooting or two, or if some antifas manage to arouse a huge uprising, or just enough demonstrations about gun violence and climate change happen to raise the temperature enough, maybe that could be effective after all if it turns a Lichtman Key!

By the way I would still consider you far right, Classic Xer, even though you are not at today's looney extreme. Anyone who so passionately accepts the trickle-down philosophy that has been rejected everywhere else in the world outside Red America, is far right. Anyone opposed to a fair immigration system and fearful of tax money going to welfare, is extreme right. 

It was extreme right in 1964, with Barry Goldwater as the standard bearer. It was known as extreme right then. The problem is that not only is the USA a center-right country to begin with, relative to the rest of the world, it's right wing has gone off the scales and taken over the Republican Party increasingly since then, so that America has regressed instead of progressed since the sixties.

My crystal ball says this is going to change now. But the right-wing has erected formidable barriers to progress that will not easily or quickly be taken down. But taken down, they must be. Many reforms are on the agenda. 

I hope we can get a lot more immigrants in our country, despite the walls Trump and the Republicans are erecting; more latinos who will have lots of kids and vote Democratic for a while. And make you squirm and complain, and cause a few of your red states to leave our country through secession, leaving us with a secure hold on the USA.

Your crystal ball? What if your crystal ball is off because your not reading it correctly or it's biassed? I don't go by crystal balls, especially your crystal ball. You have two choices dude, you can do what the British made the mistake and failed at doing twice or you can do what the Confederates tried and failed at doing by trying to do it a different way this time. Hmm.. A modern day Civil War being fought with rules of decency and also being fought without any rules at all with modern day weaponry and so forth doesn't sound very wise or pleasant to me. Who would eventually win? Well, America would win of course.  We both know that Red America wants a clear separation from Blue America at this point. I hate to bust your bubble dude but you are viewed as foreigners by us these days and the US Constitution already belongs to us so you would have to figure out you own or adopt some foreign countries.

Question??? Would you let go of Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis and Milwaukee in exchange for all your voters/people that currently live there legally/illegally and all the illegals we quickly round up once some Liberal  laws are changed and social stigmas/barriers pertaining to social involvement are lifted. I mean, issues can be addressed quickly without Liberals getting in the way, using nasty terms dissuade public involvement and undermining the authority of law enforcement. I know that would seem racist, fascist, mean, heartless, evil and so forth to Liberals. But to Americans, it would be viewed as the way American Law Enforcement should be able work. You see, Liberal preference should not be able to legally interfere with American Law Enforcement. Dude, I mentioned before, the Liberals are free to fuck up their own world but they aren't free to fuck up ours too. Does your crystal ball see solid lines ( a clear social boundary/separations) eventually drawn like I see unless things change.  According to Dave, the Reds by him don't care about much of anything he has to say, like me and others here  which means its that way across that entire country and I bet its like that in portions of your state too.

No-one wants a civil war, but if states seceded, which side would fight to keep all the states in the union? My guess is that the blue side would say fine, good riddance, go try it your way, while the red side would fight and invade and try to keep blue seceding states in the union. Unconsciously, the red states know they could not go on without the blue states, who supply the financial support disproportionately to them. The red side is also the one that values American empire, and so a smaller USA does not appeal to them. It is clearly the blue side that values the constitution, whereas the red side only values its cult leader who violates it.

Republicans do not want to address any issues. They only want to stoke resentment and fear with the false slogans of keeping immigrants out, keeping citizens armed with military weapons, making abortion illegal and keeping tax money from going to welfare. Your side does not want to address the real issues of poverty and inequality, discrimination and police shootings, gun violence, sky-high national debt caused by war/defense spending, pollution and climate change, and erosion of democracy and human rights. You guys don't care about these issues. You only care about keeping America white, armed, neo-liberal and Christian. It's a losing battle even if you fight it.