The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(12-11-2019, 10:22 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: My interpretation holds that the domestic violence has already started in the form of domestic terrorism  such as the Pittsburgh and Poway shootings that President Trump mishandled. Likewise, the van from which an a lunatic mailed bombs was a veritable shrine to the President.  I contrast Ronald Reagan, who made undeniably clear his visceral disdain for KKK and neo-Nazi outrages. I need no crystal ball; I rely heavily on the teachings of history.

This is the wrong time in which to draw lines. The Mountain and Deep South may have been voting strongly for Trump -- but southern blacks are completely unreceptive to someone who has nothing to offer. A city like Atlanta is more like Chicago in its politics than it is like most of the rest of Georgia.

Last I knew, American law enforcement is responsible to elected officials and not to some political boss. We do not have a Gestapo, KGB, SAVAK, or Mukhabarat ultimately responsible to the top leader and to nobody else. Police forces have internal affairs bureaus to monitor the police in the event that the cops go bad  as in selling out to the mobsters or becoming criminals themselves (see Antoinette Frank in New Orleans). I have given up on the idea that crime is more a consequence of social conditions than of character. Sociopathy is as common among economic elites as among the destitute, as Enrob cheats and Jeffrey Epstein have shown. 

The world does not divide neatly into a "liberal" world and a "conservative" world. I am a very partisan Democrat, but I am very traditionalist on educational content, child protection, drugs, and law-and-order. I started supporting LGBT rights when I came to the conclusion that those were compatible with family safety and (because some moron misconstrued me as homosexual and threatened to beat me up for such) law and order. All that gays and lesbians had to do to convince me was that they were going to protect any children under their custody from abuse of any kind, at which they succeeded by denouncing the pedophiles of NAMBLA. (I am satisfied that a pair of lesbian mothers would show the ferocity of tigresses if some pervert tried to molest their sons -- that is enough for m). Gays protecting a daughter? Likewise!)

If you wonder... I see tradition as one safe haven for the protection of truth that goes out of vogue for the wrong reasons. I see Donald Trump as a melding of anti-female attitudes of Hugh Hefner with the economic elitism of Ayn Rand. Hefner succeeded at telling men to go ahead and not feel guilty about their sex drive that includes a desire to see bare breasts and buttocks on nubile females. Ayn Rand suggested a moral vision of every-man-for-himself in which the most successful predators would be justified in exploiting the weak and powerless. Hefner's attitudes toward women rubbed off on elite men who got to live their fantasy of casting off a middle-aged spouse who was no longer 'sexy' for a fresh trophy wife who looked somewhat like the Playmate of the Month so that he could get to relive his youth, if with such things as sports cars and overpriced quaffs. As a consequence of casting off a wife approaching middle-age he also stuck his wife with spoiled brats who learned how to treat women -- you guessed it -- in accordance with the Playboy lifestyle, if boys -- and as manipulative wenches if girls. On that I am closer to the late Jerry Falwell, who at least promoted the idea that family cohesion is worth having lasting loyalty between husband and wife. Ayn Rand's ideal looks all too much like the sort of political order on the brink of a Red revolution because the common man has no stake in its continuation. Add to that, the more that I see of Donald Trump the more I recognize the wisdom of our Founding Fathers (except on women's rights, slavery, and the treatment of First Peoples. Nobody is perfect). Donald Trump is everything that the Founding Fathers would have held in contempt.    

I do not accuse you of such -- but I certainly accuse Donald Trump. He represents many of the destructive trends of the Third Turning that lead to calamity.  A Fourth Turning has the unpleasant tendency to show many of us how wrong we can be.

You mean the shootings that he acknowledged took place and expressed remorse for occurring and offered his condolences to family members and so forth that others like you over shadowed and completely ignored and turned political and used for political means and tried to blame him for and directly associate him with their murderers. As I've mentioned before, you better wise up and pay attention to those that you are now politically affiliated with these days. It's obvious to me that you need the Democratic party to survive much more than me at this point. As far as Trump and his personal, I could care less about his life or his lifestyle as a private citizen.