When did the current 4T begin?

[Eric the Green]

(12-17-2019, 01:23 PM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: Yes, I think that the next 1T will have a lower level of consensus compared to the last 1T.  The next 1T may feel less triumphant, less high than the last one.  

However, the  next 1T may not closely resemble the Gilded Age.

Like the English 1T that followed the Glorious Revolution, our next 1T may seem almost a blank turning.

As I read the cycles and the times, I agree the next high may seem less triumphant, although it will be somewhat bouyant and elevated by all the energy of the 2020s. Things will just keep moving.

So I would not expect it to be "blank."

Although, on the other hand, I have considered the last 45 years following the wonderful and turbulent "sixties" to be virtually blank in many ways. So, who knows....

As I consider the double rhythm unfolding, this 4T has started with a phony and muddled era like the 1850s, which I include in the civil war 4T, but will climax with another civil war-like era.

The next 1T will have less consensus and more activism and controversy than the last, and in that way resemble the gilded age post-civil war 1T.

The next 2T will feature more awareness of civic responsibility and be more intellectual like the last appollonian 2T, just as our recent 4T was dionysian like the transcendentalist one. For the first time ever though, the cycles make clear that the next 2T will be the fullfillment of the last 2T.

But turnings are still turnings, and those of the same type have much in common even through the double rhythm.

There are adjustments in the cycle though.

The 3T or the 1980s/90s fell more deeply into reactionary libertarian economics even than the last one did, and was more culturally stale. The next 3T in the 2060s might not be as much libertarian in its economics as the last one, and culturally richer.

Conversely, the previous 1T was much more civic and socialist, preserving the advances of the New Deal, compared to the gilded age 1T that was more libertarian. The 1950s 1T was calm and had much consensus and conformity, although nervous. That might indicate that the 2030s 1T might be more libertarian again, with rich people flaunting their wealth for a little while, but that depends on how much of neo-liberalism is thrown out during our current 4T. And it will not be as calm, conformist and contented as the 1950s were.

This 4T started muddled and will get more active and dangerous, whereas the previous 2T started very turbulent and chaotic and mellowed out and became more reactionary as it went along. The next 2T will have a calmer vibe to it than the last, and will get more bouyant and energetic as it goes along.