The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Eric the Green]

(12-20-2019, 02:21 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-19-2019, 12:51 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(12-18-2019, 01:50 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-17-2019, 12:28 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Yes, and that's the problem with Americans on the Right speaking about "American rights." They are not speaking of a "right" to which anyone should give any respect.

Yes, that's a problem that Liberals  have with every  American on the Right these days.  I think you should pay more attention to your crystal ball and even cling to your personal preference's as you often do even if it ends in your own demise. I mean, that is what left wing radicals have been taught to do right?                             

Well, I'm cool with that.

I don't think the Left reads crystal balls any more often than the Right does. But I stand on my statement that the Right's defense of the constitution consists of little more than the defense of the "right" of terrorists and nut cases to blow hundreds of innocent people away with semi-auto military weapons that have no place in a civilized civilian society. Anyone who defends this "right" is lost in barbarism, at least on this issue if not others.

And these days, those who oppose this "right" are not necessarily confined to those on the "Left." And indeed, support for our point of view is growing.

As for my crystal ball, it does imply the possibility that crazy portions of the Right (which may be sizable) may stage a rebellion if gun control is strengthened, in the mid 2020s probably. So, we'll watch some of you on the front lines get slaughtered by the state, probably. I don't ignore that you guys exist. Some of my fellow crystal and star readers and more sanguine and don't allow for this possibility.

But eventually, I don't know how far into the future exactly, I do predict civilization will prevail, and this meaningless scourge will end. I hope we can end the other scourges you guys inflict upon us, such as perennial virtual poverty and inequality, attacks on democracy, and destruction of our climate and environment. We might not have as long a time span available for those other issues to be resolved in our favor. If they are not, then America declines and fades away as a shadow of its former self, and the world suffers along with us.

Your crystal ball doesn't tell you that, your crystal ball says there's going to be turbulent/troublesome years during the mid 2020's. I'll be about 60 years old and I should still be in pretty shape for my age and I expect to be a legal gun owner who owns an AR-15 too. Gee, we have a common belief and even reached a consensus. Now, the mid 2020's puts us at about four score and seven right.     

As far as your statement, if I believed that every gun owner was a bad person, I would completely agree with your statement. If I believed that every person who owns  an assault rifle was a  bad person, I would completely agree with it. If I believed that every legal  purchaser of a firearm was a criminal or cold blooded murderer and so forth, I would completely agree with it as well. How many Democratic gun owners know a fellow gun owner who used their gun to slaughter innocent children and how many of them would use their gun to defend innocent children? You better figure a way open up that mind of yours because it's going to need some new ideas after it goes through the trauma of losing the house.

It's nice to reach a consensus on something.

Don't worry, I have gone through that trauma before several times and it hasn't changed my mind. On this issue, I only move on the margins. I am sure that there are too many people with too easy access to military/semi-automatic weapons. There is no such thing as a good guy with an AR-15. (S)he (usually he) can go bad at any time. Nor can an AR-15 or any semi-automatic be used to defend anything. That would just mean that innocent bystanders get killed too by all the shooting. You guys want teachers to be armed, but teachers can go crazy too. We need to take away these guns from everyone as best we can under the law. Confiscation may not be possible, but bans on sales and bans on certain people owning them can be done.

Again, if you want your gun in order to participate in a rebellion against the Left, then that may be another matter. But you won't win your civil war in my opinion unless you organize into an alternate state. Then you will form an army where these weapons belong anyway, just like the Confederates did. Aimless random violence by disaffected "Americans" will not work for you; you won't be able to stop a Left government that way. If you just want to have a semi-automatic to shoot a government official you think is unfair to you, you will be killed yourself for your trouble. If you think semi-automatic weapons are able to stop a criminal in a rural area, well a shotgun does just as well, or better yet, other methods work better, and with less danger that your semi might be stolen or used by a disturbed relative or even yourself to kill themselves or others. You don't live in a rural area though, so that argument does not apply to you. The police forces in this country agree that there should be fewer guns out there; they are outgunned by criminals if they have easy access to AR-15s and such.

It would be ironic if your side wages a civil war in order to protect your right to own weapons whose only viable use is to wage a civil war.