01-13-2020, 09:06 PM
(01-13-2020, 04:43 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:We needed a real old fashioned revolutionary to get rid of British rule and establish a new form of government that we are still associated with today. I take pride in my personal relationship (American ancestors) with those who played an active role in that great endeavor and all future endeavors that followed it. Classic understands that violence is still being used by others and becomes necessary to use at times. Did the 9/11 attack shock you as much as it shocked me that morning? True, terrorism is not the way to change America. I don't know whether the major legislature approach or Bernie approach will work to change it either at this point.(01-13-2020, 10:31 AM)David Horn Wrote: Sorry to burst your bubble, but America is not yours to own. And please, let's agree that dirty tricks are the GOP's stock in trade. The Dems and other non-party liberal groups are rank amateurs. BTW, threats,, implied or direct, have negative consequences. You need to tone it down. Remarkable as it may be to you, liberals are both patriotic and brave. If you actually start a civil war, be prepared to lose it. That's how it played last time.
And I Have been noting the ‘terrorism is not the way to change America’ meme seen first with Oklahoma City, then with September 11th. Both parties rejected terrorism, and both bases followed suit. Classic seem to be obsessed with the old Industrial Age love of violence, not ready to switch to the major legislative bill approach. Violence in the form of a civil war or revolution used to be required for a major cultural change, but has not been necessary in the USA domestically since the New Deal. The spiral of violence is not escalating. I am not anticipating violence making a comeback now. Crisis wars are an age out.