01-14-2020, 06:09 PM
(01-14-2020, 03:21 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:Dude, I've been questioning your authority, your positions, your views, your reasoning, your overall knowledge, your ideology, your judgement, your core values/ inner morality, your political motives and so forth. So, where is the liberal pacifist while cops are being sent into harms way to collect so called illegal firearms. Let me guess, the pacifist is here beating on his chest while the non pacifist is here showing you real death and violence that the pacifist played a role in creating because their emotions fogged their judgement. I assume you must have been sleeping or dreaming when the Republican base rejected their authority and opted to do what liberal Americans do by going outside the box so to speak. Is America cult like? Hint...Liberal America reminds me of a cult like culture. BTW, it also reminds me of an aristocratic culture that few regular people have very much sway with today as well. So, what kind of Americans are you guys these days?(01-14-2020, 06:07 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(01-14-2020, 01:48 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: I had a number of revolutionary war soldiers in my ancestry, and at least one civil war soldier. I am related distantly to Abe Lincoln. I don't know of any political leaders of those years in my ancestry. Most of my lines came to America from Britain in the 17th century; some German lines in the 1850s. Some French and Dutch earlier. None more recent. So I am an "American."
For a while I was into genealogy. Our ancestors include veterans of the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, WW I, and WW2. We had a major line that settled in Hingham MA way back in the 1600s that is the best documented and populated. We are are all over the book History of Hingham. (One married couple had only one pair of grandparents between them. They sure had a smaller taboo against intermarrying back then.). I can match your distant kinship to Lincoln, and raise you four people who sailed on the Mayflower. (My nephew lives near Mordici Lincoln Street, a Lincoln ancestor who stayed in Scituate MA for a time.) Other French, Norwegian, and similar lines tend to end as they cross the Atlantic, truncating them. Each nationality seemed to stick among their own kind until 1900 or so, then seemed to intermarry among Europeans quite a bit, creating all those lines.
Anyway, I haven't identified as "American," but as purebred mongrel. Same thing?
See the Butlers of Brockton if you are really curious.
It just goes to show that those who question the authority of the Republicans are "Americans." My ancestors included Mayflower folks too. Mordecai Lincoln is my direct ancestor. No WWI or WWII soldiers, though; my father was a pacifist CO in the big one, and a co-founder of the first listener-supported radio station in the nation, KPFA (Pacifica Foundation).