The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(01-14-2020, 12:12 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Socialist?  That sort of means government for the people, which is hardly an insult.  The problem is that the old world groups that called themselves socialist were more often not socialist by the above definition.  They were for their own elites, the party, those that controlled the means of production.  Therefore, they failed.  They could not compete with the West, and have not yet learned, repeating their mistake.  Their current attempts to mix capitalism with autocracy will eventually run into similar problems.  In the process of their lie about being socialists, however, they put an ugly connotation on the word.  If I thought you weren’t playing on the ugliness I would not object very much to the word.  There is really nothing wrong with a government that is trying to work for the people as opposed to a party that thinks themselves above the law.

I think that we are both educated enough to know the meaning of socialism and understand its direct relation to communism. I figure/ assume if I know it then you should probably (???) know it too because everyone knows that liberals are (supposed to be) more intelligent people than me. So, who is proving themselves wrong and who is proving themselves right based on this particular exchange? I know the answer, the question is do you know it? Hint...A monarch and a royal army and a royal air force and a royal navy and an American are good things to have around while nations are embracing socialism like Great Britain and other WE nations following World War II.

Yes, the old world and the new world took different paths. The US ( New World) opted for a new path. The old world pretty much remained the old world. Later, after revolts and civil wars and a dose of old fashioned imperialism that failed, Great Britain and France (the new west) set themselves apart from the old world (the old east). Later on, the new west along with the new world and won a world war with the old world eastern powers. The remaining eastern power (western ally) imploded and turned into a communist state. Later on, the old eastern world pretty much imploded and was later pretty much destroyed during a world war with a western power, the new world and a new eastern power that was still pretty much old world. The new western powers expanded and eastern power or communist state expanded formed several eastern communist state resulting in the cold war era and the formation of another eastern power or communist state. Dude, I've telling you that you party isn't much different than the countries located in the old word. You see, the countries in the old world voted for socialism while we stuck with capitalism.