01-16-2020, 07:28 AM
(01-15-2020, 08:54 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: The pseudo fascists identify with the Nazi flag which is a foreign flag. The KKK mainly identify with itself, it's garb, it's symbols, it's religious belief and it's ceremonial tradition. As Far as I know, the KKK has no flag or political affiliation these days.
Both groups are fringe conservative. I'm sure they vote with the conservative Southern Strategy. Many conservatives reject racism, and are very uncomfortable with seeing them associated with the conservative movement. Hardly all.
You often see the KKK flying old Confederate flags. The pseudo nazis focus on the racist aspect of the old 20th century version of fascism.
I appreciate your trying to distance yourself from some of the more deplorable deplorables, but many conservatives are associated with racism, so Neo Nozi and the KKK are considered a fringe conservative group.
As I have said, I consider some conservatives quite honorable and respectable. I just think this is not their time. There has been a conservative time since Nixon, and the point of diminishing return on conservative philosophies has long been passed. A lot of cyclical history is due to factions riding their philosophies too far for too long. With political agendas, the temptation is for those in power to continue to press what got them in power. Eventually they go so far that it is obvious that the opposing faction deserves their turn. Thus, the true conservatives are wrong now, clinging to power, past their prime. I look at your pretense that the liberals are desperate and on the edge of failure and find it laughable. Ok, boomer?
But the KKK and the Neo Nazi just aren't my cup of tea. Trump uses them. They are not the bulk of the true conservative movement. Yet, they don't belong on the liberal side, for sure. I'm afraid you are stuck with them.
But will you renounce them, and racism in general? If you were building an big conservative tent, would you invite them in?
I ask because I consider you more likely to renounce the racists than for the liberals who are so common on this site to renounce the attempts to legislate from the bench to change culture without the super majority required for a constitutional amendment. Following the impeachment, the Democrats seem to be wrapping themselves in the constitution and rule of law. And yet, they seem only to be interested in rule of law and the constitution if it meshes with their agenda. They seem to believe parts of it are obsolete, they get to decide which parts, thus they will abandon rule of law and govern by whim and intuition. Or is that whim and hypocrisy? Sometimes I can't tell.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.