01-16-2020, 06:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-16-2020, 07:57 PM by Classic-Xer.)
(01-16-2020, 01:17 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I would add you should read a few of the succession papers, and there is a note written by the designer of the flag that made clear it was intended as a symbol of racism and the southern slave economy.Yep, that is what it may have meant back then during the civil war and what it meant until the end of Jim Crow or racism's political death. As I recall, the northern Democrats didn't get what the wanted to get following the civil war. The northern Democrats basically wanted the south (spoils of war) for themselves. The civil war was actually fought over state rights pertaining to future American states. Why are you waging a purely political war that clearly ended nearly 60 years ago and punishing/trashing a bunch of American people who live in the south today who pretty much have/had nothing to do with either of them. Do you want to know what that American flag also represents to other Americans these days? The flag represents good old fashioned American defiance that Americans value/honor/respect that you and every other liberal fool who either reads liberal posts and posts themselves clearly hate about America and diabolically oppose these days. To a liberal of any stripe these days, there is nothing worse on this earth to contend with than a good old American rebel.
It is possible for one symbol to have multiple meanings. There can be people who sincerely believe they can use the flag to remember some southern heritage. I will let them pretend when they are visiting some monument or old battlefield. If the intent of the gathering is to remember the past, I have not much quibble.
But this is a revisionist meaning. The old south was quite racist in the beginning of the war time, without trace of apology or considering the possibility that they might lose and have to change the meaning of their symbols. They had to be, given the nature of the economy they were attempting to preserve. The original meaning is the racist one. I would add that the deplorables participating in a confrontal demonstration intend the flag to take the more confrontational meaning. If you are going to some sort of white pride event, anyone would be quite justified in applying the original and true meaning of the flag.
I'm an American northerner Bob. I'm not some wimpy white southerner/rural person that someone on your side can identify and can pick on, scare, manipulate and turn into a supporter or whip saw into shape and keep in line like Sean Love. I bet he's voting for Trump. I bet every old poster like him who attacked me for doing nothing and not seeming to care about economic issues and conditions directly related to foreign trade are voting for Trump. Hint...the Democratic party lost both civil wars over slavery and lost a war that it basically ran from Washington DC while sticking to and remaining under strict UN guide lines and has had no viable alternative economic identity since the Soviet Union collapsed.