01-22-2020, 12:37 PM
(01-22-2020, 11:32 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: You don't remember all the demonizing of American troops that went on back then. You don't remember the amount of liberal posters and liberal supporters who ended up being lost over it back then. I do because I was there taking them to task and openly trashing them (treating them like scumbags) right in front of the eyes of the entire Democratic population that existed at the time. Hint...I don't treat liberal scumbags the same way as I treated the decent Democrats and the decent Democrats sided with me which forced you and others to change their ways. I'm not dreaming or role playing (pretending to be someone other than myself) or playing senseless political games.
Treating people like skumbags does sound like you. You do seem to enjoy it. I don’t doubt you could find people you consider scumbags if you looked for them. I just found more people who were concerned with the administration lying about cause for war. The destabilization of the Middle East by the conservative administration was problematic. Bush 43's alliance between military neo cons, oil interests and Evangelicals on top of the unraveling memes was toxic. That was of far more interest to me that being obsessed with treating people like scumbags. There were real scumbags to pick on.
As a devout agnostic, I do find it ironic that many conservatives embrace religious thought in America but demonize it it in the Middle East. It is quite obvious that the Capitalist and Communist systems were exploiting the oil and that anyone for the people would devalue those systems. They favored the elites rather than the locals. Sticking with the Agricultural Age autocratic values was the option left, even if they have the same flaw. If you don’t include the Enlightenment approach such as human rights, checks and balances and real multiple party elections, there is no check on the power of the elites. I don’t consider Agricultural Age values a good choice in modern times, but what choice do they have? Well, those who wished more Western values immigrated to the West. That is a valid choice, but it leaves those sticking with religious old values in charge back in the Middle East.
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I consider Fantasy Role Play to be another form of fiction and literature. At center it is a shared daydream. Most people watch TV, plays, movies and other traditional forms. I prefer to be more active, to create characters, to effect the plot. Thus, I watch little TV, see few movies. Others choose otherwise.
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