01-24-2020, 12:15 AM
(01-23-2020, 10:36 PM)Ghost Wrote:(01-23-2020, 09:23 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(01-23-2020, 08:30 PM)Ghost Wrote:(01-23-2020, 07:12 PM)jleagans Wrote: 72 years, with each turning and generational cohort covering 18 years. 18 is our clearest demarcation of childhood to adulthood, with 18x4=72.
I remember having a thread where I argued about 72-year saeculums. However, it received a lot of criticism on here.
It actually does make a lot of sense and I can see how it works. The 1996 cutoff for Millennials seems very similar to the 1924 cutoff for the GI Generation, with 1997-1999 and 1925-1927 as being years that are mostly seen as the later generation despite having some sources occasionally lumping them with the previous generation. (for 97-99, it would be Homelanders, and for 25-27, it would be the Silents). 1924-1927 also have the same Chinese zodiac animals as 1996-1999 (1924 and 1996 are rat years, 1925 and 1997 are ox years, 1926 and 1998 are tiger years, 1927 and 1999 are rabbit years).
1925 and 1928 are both very good starting points for Silents, similar to how 1997 and 2000 are both very good starting points for Generation Z/Homelanders.
The Pew generation dates are not based on generational characteristics. Using those, Gen Z probably starts around 2003. Be that as it may, the saeculum if anything should be getting longer, according to what the saeculum is based upon. That is the average length of a human lifetime. That is much more than 72 years, now, and has been getting longer (although not in the USA under Trump). A lot of 72-year old folks today are just getting started! S&H defined the archetypal length of the saeculum in T4T as 84 years, based on the length of a human life and 21-year generations.
It could be claimed that generations are shorter because young people now come of age sooner, such as at 18. They propose a 5-turning cycle, extending the human life length to 90. I haven't been convinced of this yet though.
I think that it's closer to something like 22 years, considering that more and more people are going to college (22 seems to be the average length of nostalgia cycles, and 22 is when you get your Bachelor's degree). I believe that one person talked about the four seasons of life, with 22 years representing each season. However, I think that 72 is the average life length worldwide.
I feel like there should be microgenerations (12 years) and macrogenerations (21 years).
For 1997-1999, their 70's born equivalents are most likely 1976-1978, and their 80's born equivalents are most likely 1985-1987.
I think there are sub generations. They are portions of the 21-year generations, and vary in length, but less than 12 years. 22-year generations may happen too; the length varies a bit. And there are transitional cusps between generations too.