(01-28-2020, 01:05 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(01-28-2020, 05:53 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:(01-28-2020, 03:47 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(01-27-2020, 11:32 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: These days, cities are getting more expensive to live in, especially on the coasts. Poor people can't afford to live in San Francisco or New York anymore. Liberal white people are more likely to live there, unless they are rich liberal non-white people. Maybe what you say about the hood applies to some other cities like Detroit, Milwaukee or Baltimore, but gentrification is also happening in some of these cities. The urban areas are where the jobs are and where the interesting people live. Young, bright people don't live in red, rural areas where people vote by 8 to 1 margins for Trump. These people are dumb and boring. Young people want opportunity and fun. So they move to blue cities, and leave the red areas to those who prefer a declining banana republic or who feel abandoned, resentful and stuck there and drugged up.
Dude, anything we support or oppose can be viewed or labelled as racist at this point. So, whatever, keep doing it and pray that your leadership doesn't hurt you worse than it's hurting you know with us, does anything stupid that actually impacts us and requires a nasty response or your state doesn't get itself further in trouble and collapse. You should also know that when you call people racists who aren't racists those people will be offended/insulted. Now, I'd love to have an opportunity to challenge one the dumb racist blacks or one of them dumb sexist women or dumb Islamic racists or dumb narcissists or dumb socialists of yours in House today. Also, I wouldn't advise that you continue using us as your scapegoats either. I mean, I watched as people were getting beaten by angry minorities in the streets of LA during the 90's.
Your part of the Right -- working-class white people who support the Tea Party politically -- does not establish the economic ethos that has developed almost without a break for forty years. The real rulers, the asset owners and bureaucratic elites, on have successfully imposed an ethos in which on behalf of their swinish selves, everything possible becomes a privilege of high price, toil becomes a harsh duty with minuscule reward, and life becomes a grim struggle for what should never be a privilege -- survival. Monopolization and vertical integration get the reward of tax cuts for classes that get the passive income of economic rent which has become the majority of income. We get an illusion of prosperity while more of us go poor despite working harder and longer under harsher discipline. So we have increasingly blatant expressions of indulgence in a society that increasingly resembles a Marxist stereotype of capitalism.
We even have our 'opiate of the masses' in dumbed-down entertainment as a diversion from thinking such 'troublesome' thoughts as the need to supplant the every-man-for-himself ethos that the Master Class has imposed. We get a celebrity circus as an anodyne. Wise people can see through it; fools accept it. You, Classic X'er, accept what the economic elites tell you. We even get someone who has made his income either as a landlord to people who must live in Greater New York to avail themselves of certain job opportunities or by supplying schlock entertainment. I found it easy to "fire" The Apprentice with my remote control.
The conspicuous consumption of the Master Class does about as much good for most of us as did the expensive clothes, jewelry, and cars of wildly-successful criminals of the ghettos in the Boom Awakening to the desperately-poor. The choice of our economic elites, one that they can enforce, is that of cream for the princess' cat over milk for the baby of a farm laborer. Your part of the American political spectrum is the last, except for the amoral and rapacious elites who exploit us all, to recognize the reality of a sick society. The generational cycle itself is creating a desire for a child-friendly order. Severe poverty is not compatible with a child-friendly culture forming under your nose yet invisible to you.
The so called economic elites have little to no influence over me or my decisions related to me or my family. The American right isn't media or all that market driven these days. The American right is pretty much content with sticking to doing things and succeeding it's own way these days. The liberals on the other hand are less independent/mature/financially stable and more herd minded (cliquey) and more susceptible to both influences. Look at you, you're a prime example of the liberal mentality. I assume that you can picture yourself being mistreated (told where you messed up or why you failed or where you didn't do what you should have done) and fired by Trump which is why you hate Trump.
Oh, really? They decide what politicians and political causes get the campaign funds, and those politicians and cases are the ones most amenable to the class interests of our economic elites -- cheap labor toiling under brutal management, lax regulation, monopolized markets, low taxes, wars for profit, and privatization of everything possible. They seek whatever they can get away with, and that means possibly things not quite nasty enough to provoke a proletarian revolution.Life simply gets harder, and for what?
With liberals, life gets better as technology advances. People get better pay and working conditions instead of being squeezed as workers and bled as consumers. I question that we are more reckless with personal spending; we are just as capable of savings and investment as right-wingers. (If anything, those "investors" are more likely to get fleeced in hustles of coins and precious metals as are people on the Right. I actually made some good investments in the spring of 2009... and it is a good thing that I did because those at least bought me a car when I lost everything else with my father in a nursing home).
People with solid income can spend everything that they have -- but people with low incomes can only deny themselves what they want. We liberals do not all have the same culture (as should be shown in our ethnic diversity). Honest [pay for honest work is the best that most people can hope for -- but that is adequate so long as one has skills.
Oh, by the way -- Donald Trump is a horrible person. You misread me when I said that I "fired" his bad TV (The Apprentice) show with my remote control much as I could "fire" a baseball game on the air when one team is down 10-2 in the fourth inning. I have never been an employee of Donald Trump or been on his TV show. I prefer to be around people who don't brag about grabbing women by their "kitty-cats". Trump has proved too amoral, immoral, and narcissistic to be a desirable President. I do not blame him for my economic hardships. I blame a disability.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.