01-30-2020, 03:16 AM
(01-30-2020, 01:55 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: The global elites are on your side, The bulk of the media elites are on your side. The bulk of the Hollywood elites are on your side. The bulk of the coastal city elites like Bloomberg who have substantial interests in China are on your side. The Koch Brothers are on your side. The modern day robber barons are on your side. The remnants of the old Bush wing elites are on your side. You may as well quit sucking up to me and slip back over with Eric like its always been since I arrived many years ago.
The way I keep score...
Primarily Establishment Conservative: Global Elites. Fox News. Breitbart. The Elites. The Koch Brothers. The Robber Barons. The Bush era Elite remnants. The KKK. The Neo nazis. Racists. Evangelicals.
Primarily Liberal: The Bulk of the coastal media. Hollywood. The Antifa.
I likely missed a lot of liberal elements, in part because you listed so many conservative elements that things got lopsided.
The conservative elite that you list are very redundant, including multiple labels for the same people... For example, the Koch brothers are elites. Most people view that the Koch Brothers are distinctly not liberals, but neither are they people that you would like either. You are confusing the common view with your own. To a great extent, like the word 'American', you are redefining many words to meet your own strange perception, thus almost speaking another language. What you say may be true using your custom language, but most of us speak English and most of what you say comes across as gibberish or nonsense.
Now I believe what you describe fits your personal opinion. The above is far more for the pro elite Establishment Republicans than the Tea Party or grass roots. Perhaps there should be three conventional sides? More?
From my perspective the conservatives who are not racist, pro elite or tribal thinkers should be willing to work with the liberals on many issues, but still honestly disagree on things like voodoo economics and government size. Then again voodoo economics has got the US in trouble multiple times. Sending jobs abroad is pro elite profits thus a division of wealth issue and in part racist. It is putting the corporations above the country and the workers, working against certain races. The interests in sending jobs abroad is solidly pitting the elites against the American workers. Thus, few if any are not against the elites, unless they perceive themselves as elites.
I guess that is one of the big places we differ. You claim to be for jobs staying in the US, but support the party that is most involved in moving jobs abroad. But you are far closer to Tea Party the Establishment Republican, and thus confuse liberals with people not like yourself. There are multiple factions not like yourself. In fact, you are weird. Most people are not like yourself. A lot of electrons are wasted on this site trying to straighten out your non-standard perception.
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