The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(01-30-2020, 11:12 AM)Cynic Hero Wrote: Sorry But a lot of us have actually watched the primaries and your scenario of election 2020 being based on the electing being about liking Trump vs Not Liking Trump  or his policies (or sensibilities) becomes by the day LESS and LESS likely. The DNC is clearly hell bent on nominating an Authoritarian SJW candidate.

The real authoritarian is Donald Trump, who has developed a totalitarian-style cult of personality, attempted to turn Congress into a rubber-stamp on his behalf (he did fail spectacularly with the House!), sabotaged the separation of powers, short-circuited the checks and balances, attempted to subordinate foreign policy to get an advantage over a potential opponent in the 2020 election, shown contempt for the poor and weak, and held Castro-style rallies  

Yes, Trump has some fanatical support. Big deal -- so do all dictators of the modern era. Such dictators offer excitement instead of solutions. They find enemies in anyone who says 'no'; enemies of the Great and Infallible Leader are thus Enemies of the People.  

Quote:Its blatantly obvious that the Democratic Party elites are only considering Warren, Harris, and maybe Klobochar and Buttigieg as Candidates and are actively sabotaging all the others. Under Such circumstances Trump will likely win by a MUCH greater margin than in 2016. This is because the DNC by force-feeding such a candidate, would have eliminated any possibility of November 2020 being "a referendum on President Donald Trump" because they would have force fed basically a FREAK as the democratic Nominee.

Do you know what a real freak is? Trump has mocked disabled people, something that people are taught not to do as early as elementary school. When I was a child there were disabled veterans of WWII -- and I thought that if I ever got into a war as a soldier I could come back missing a limb as the result of my duty in war. I am on the autistic spectrum, and I have found myself in situations that have been embarrassing. I often do badly in facial recognition. You would be surprised at how that makes me feel. 

"I prefer war heroes who don't get captured by the enemy", he said of Senator John McCain. If that does not disgust you I do not know whether you have the capacity to register disgust. OK, Trump did nothing to get the flyer John McCain into the custody of the nasty clutches of North Vietnam, but there is something even worse that he said that he did.

"I grab (women) by their (kitty-cats -- deliberate euphemism on my part)". In my state (Michigan), grabbing a girl or woman in her genital area without her consent is criminal sexual conduct if there is no penetration, and rape if there is penetration. Good people do not walk into the changing rooms of the opposite gender when such people are there, except if sharing the job with a person of the opposite gender or in an emergency. 

I look at what President Trump does and recognize that good people do not do what he does. What he got away with in 2016... maybe he won't get away with it in 2020.     

Quote:Instead Such and Election would effectively be decided on the Issue of "Freaks vs Non-Freaks" if the DNC continues on its current path. Last Time I Checked, there are A LOT more non-freaks than there are freaks. Ironically legions of outraged Millennials, Late-wave Xers, Northern Blacks, Hispanics and Asians (demographics that are normally decidedly Democrat leaning) would probably be what propels Trump to victory in 2020. And it would be fitting because the DNC would have brought the landslide defeat upon themselves.

Am I a freak for being on the autistic spectrum? I would rather have a normal life. 

Note well: most polling evidence suggests that people who let Trump get away with what he said and did may not be so lenient the next time. Trump has done nothing to win over people who usually vote Democratic who did not vote for him in 2016. The only large number of Hispanics that I can see voting for him is those Cuban-Americans who still wax nostalgic about getting 'their' property back and lording it over the toilers on that property. Those Cuban-Americans have typically voted strongly Republican. Maybe their grandchildren are more concerned about the high cost of a college education...

I see a range of results from a narrow loss by the President to a landslide loss.  Statewide polls show that Trump is not winning any state that he lost in 2016; he is outside the margin of error for winning either Michigan or Pennsylvania; there are plenty of states that he stands to lose.

Trump offends people who can see through his low-brow demagoguery which mocks the formal education of which many Americans feel pride, for which they have often made great sacrifices, and because of which they have jobs that put them in or keep them in the middle class. I am in no position in which to say that Bach is superior to bluegrass; such is my taste, and nothing else. 


There is a thread on a political cycle that suggests that Donald Trump is the last hurrah of the Individualist era; after about forty years the President who initiates a big change in the political norms is caught with a tired agenda or policies that simply no longer work. This is even without stupidity or corruption. Some time about forty years after a President shakes things up in popular ways, that agenda is stale and loses its original constituencies. The pattern fails, as with Buchanan in 1860, Hoover in 1932, Carter in 1980, or apparently Trump in 2020 -- and Trump in 2020 even without scandal and stupidity. Carter was smart and moral, so it has nothing to do with corruption or incompetence.

   http://generational-theory.com/forum/thread-5980.html


As usual, You, Eric, Pbrower, Classic, Kinser and Warren Dew can all weigh in your thoughts on the above statement.[/quote]

It is basically the Skowronek cycle.