Bernie 4 Prez redux

[Marypoza]

(07-12-2016, 05:34 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-12-2016, 04:49 PM)Marypoza Wrote:

(07-12-2016, 01:11 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I hope some Bernie people get on the Hillary bangwagon, as Bernie wants us to do. You won't, and I'm not sure about me yet entirely; but although she has shortcomings, Hillary has real talent and vision, and she can do the job; although the Republicans will do all they can to sabotage her. But they have done that to ALL the Democratic presidents since they lost their entitlement on the White House. They smear them, and abuse them, and block them, and it's up to the people now to "move on" and shove the Repugs out of the way so the nation can do its business.

-- the DNC cheated, fixed elections, engaged in voter suppression, to keep Bernie from becoming the nominee. Why Bernie is giving all that a pass I don't know, but then he is an Artist. I am not & imho, to vote for the DNC's Annointed One is to approve their tactics & they'll do it again & again & again. Soooo don't vote 4 the Annointed One. Besides Jill is a much better candidate

That's all false. Nothing the DNC could have done, would have altered the result. It would have taken far more "cheating" than happened to accomplish that, and Bernie knows it.

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Quote:I understand that Stein feels the need to slander Hillary as unfairly as the Repugs do, but it's unbecoming. If she gets some extra votes, she'll have to pull them away from the Hill. But she may lose mine that way. She needs to push the Green platform, instead of trying to boost her vote total at the expense of the Lady who is the only one that can do the job now as president.

How is Jill slandering the Hildabitch?

Stein is saying she should be indicted, even though she didn't break the law. That puts her on the same level as that snake Ryan. She calls her a liar and all the other things the Repugs say. Just like you insult her.

That doesn't make her a better candidate. Bernie didn't ever stoop that low, although he flirted with doing it sometimes. He knows which side of the aisle is better.

The Democratic platform is much more progressive now, almost like the Green. Bernie accomplished a lot in shifting Hillary's views, and the two worked together. Stein has a lot of the right ideas. But she has no sense of what's possible to accomplish, and speaks as if change were easy. She actually opposed the Affordable Care Act because it wasn't good enough. Bernie was not that foolish; he helped write it. They both agree, as do I, that single payer is better. But something is better than nothing or going backwards. Stein has much less experience and background for the job than Hillary or even Johnson. That's a consideration too. Hillary voted wrong on Iraq, but that was 13 years ago, and she didn't start the war. Right now Stein's foreign policy is less balanced than Hillary's. It's easy just to knock everything America does. It's harder to do what Hillary does, and think things out. So I'm leaning toward Hillary now, where I was leaning Stein before, but I won't decide or donate for a while yet. I'm still very much a Green.

-- Hillary is still too warlike for me. She was behind destabilizing Syria & we see what a mess that turned out to be. The FBI said she was "extremely careless"..  & she wants to run with the nuclear football? Uh no.

She's against single payer- that's a dealbreaker right there- & will doubtless flip back on TPP, considering her operatives vetoed anti TPP planks in the party's platform. Yes Bernie got some concessions, but  the real stuff, the stuff that actually counts- no.  

As for Jill, she's simply not pulling her punches the way Bernie was. But then Jill's no Artist either. Also, as I've told you before, I'm playing a longer game than this election. I want to see the Greens get their 5 or 10%- whichever it is. With Fric & Frac running we all know a clown is gonna get in the White House so voter turnout is gonna be low. All the more easier for the Greens to hit critical mass . Already the Bernie groups I know of are switching over to Jill, altho the official Dexit won't be until after the Convention. Look how far Bernie got without any help ftom the media or the DNC, if these groups organize for Jill just imagine what they can do for her.

Stick with Jill Eric, this is the yr to vote Green