The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(02-01-2020, 03:44 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(01-31-2020, 04:07 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: ... You should know what American means, you should know the American pledge of allegiance by heart, you should understand the human losses and the sacrifices and the hardships and the goodness associated with the American flag and be able to recognize yourself and your freedoms as being with American flag and the American Constitution and the country for which it stands. At what point has the terms Liberal Democrat ever been placed above the terms America or American or viewed as above them and no longer accountable to them and so forth? Do you get my
drift or do you require more education?

So tell us, what sacrifices you have made -- you or anyone truly close to you.  Did your father or grandfather or even an uncle go off to fight WW-II or Korea?  What about Vietnam?  And what of you?  Did you volunteer to fight after the Iraq War?  Did you go after 9/11?  If you can't answer positively to some of what I asked, then please, ratchet down the patriotic rhetoric.  It's not playing well.

Well, I built a successful career from the bottom up and built an American business from the ground up so to speak and paid a lot of taxes ( Company payroll  for 8 employees, personal income taxes, capitol gains taxes  and state and local taxes and state and federal unemployment tax and work comp insurance and so forth) while doing them. The government invested less than fifteen hundred dollars in my education via grants. I owed less than one thousand dollars in government backed low interest school loans. What you see written here required a lot of sacrifice and financial risk to accomplish.

You served in Vietnam, what did you actually do over there? Did you earn any metals, see any battles, dodge any bullets or see any armed Viet Cong or North Vietnamese Army regulars at all? Did you enlist or were you drafted? I didn't have to volunteer for the Iraq war because the 1st Iraq war was more or less a cake wake as far as wars go that didn't require further enlistment. My buddy shot more Iraqi Republican Guard who were either ordering gunners via gun point or shooting unarmed Iraqi soldiers trying to surrender with machine guns. You see that was his job during the 1st Iraq war.

Me, I had several veterans in the family. I had a grandfather who was about to deploy to France when the 1st World War ended. I have a picture of him and in his buddies in their Dough Boy uniforms after completing basic training. He would have been over there but his battalion was depleted by influenza which delayed their deployment a few months as their ranks were replenished. I had two uncles who served during World War II. One of them us called back into service and served during Korea as well. My dad served during Korea. Another uncle served in Germany during its post war occupation. Me, I bounced around the idea of joining the Marine Corp after high school but my uncle told me that I'd be bored to death and get tired of being prepared and trained for a war that wouldn't occur and he was right about that back then. The mid to late 80's would have been a boring time to be serving in the military. So, I took his advice and went to school for HVAC instead.