The Partisan Divide on Issues

[Classic-Xer]

(02-02-2020, 03:01 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(02-02-2020, 01:45 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I didn't say that Koch brothers were liberals. I said that the Koch brothers were supporting/backing Democratic candidates during the 2018 election. As I mentioned, it's alright to demonize an obvious demon but you better make sure that you're right about the rest or you can expect see reprimands and reprisals and lethal strikes. Hint..I don't mince words, sugar coat or waste time playing mind games. Do you prefer to be warned or prefer to be engaged and shredded. Common courtesy requires a warning before violence or other nastiness ensues.

(01-30-2020, 03:16 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(01-30-2020, 01:55 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

The global elites are on your side, The bulk of the media elites are on your side. The bulk of the Hollywood elites are on your side. The bulk of the coastal city elites like Bloomberg who have substantial interests in China are on your side. The Koch Brothers are on your side. The modern day robber barons are on your side. The remnants of the old Bush wing elites are on your side. You may as well quit sucking up to me and slip back over with Eric like its always been since I arrived many years ago.

The way I keep score...

Primarily Establishment Conservative: Global Elites.  Fox News.  Breitbart.  The Elites.  The Koch Brothers.  The Robber Barons.  The Bush era Elite remnants.  The KKK.  The Neo nazis.  Racists.  Evangelicals.

Primarily Liberal: The Bulk of the coastal media.  Hollywood.  The Antifa.

I likely missed a lot of liberal elements, in part because you listed so many conservative elements that things got lopsided.

No mention of the 2018 election.

I saw my side as Democratic, liberal, progressive or blue.  I see them opposed primarily by the Republicans, conservatives or red.  As I support the 2nd Amendment, you are not pushing elite or racist ideas, but primarily, we are blue and red respectively.  The Koch brothers too are not pure, but mostly red.  (Who does fit one of the two major stereotypes purely?)  I see in your putting the elites and racists as not on your side, so they are put on mine.  I think we are both correct in rejecting them.  Putting them on my side means you are not listening.

I confess I do not take the threats of violence seriously.  If I did, I would take out a restraining order, talk to the police about the threats, moved around my various old martial arts weapons to make them more available, or at least made a complaint to the moderator.  It is interpreted as you just being immature, as being unable to defend your opinions otherwise, so you practice bullying mostly as a diversion.

How many times have you been arrested for murder, assault, disturbing the peace or similar crimes?  Do you boast about being a criminal?  Do you see it as ‘American’ to be a criminal?  Do you really advocate violence, or are you just playing internet mind games?  If I did go to the police, would I get laughed at?

Me, both martial arts schools I attended (The MIT Goju club and the Eternal Tao) had the instructors warn us that if you used what they taught for bullying or intimidation, you would be kicked from the school.  That seems entirely proper.

And, common courtesy would require smaller steps before demonization.  It is just that you have been so persistent.

I don't advocate violence. Personally, I view it as a last resort and only proper when used for defense and war. I don't ignore the possibility of it being used improperly nor reject the right to use it altogether either. I've haven't been arrested for a crime or investigated for a crime either. I've had a few speeding tickets and a couple minor citations but that's it. 

I'd suggest that you reevaluate and remove the KKK, Neo Nazi's and racists from the Republican side. I've had encounters with racists on your side who aren't white. Hint..they don't like you anymore than me and don't like any of there own race who don't share the racist beliefs either. Hint...Calling me a racist and blaming me for racism isn't going to change their racist beliefs pertaining to white people in general. The same goes for the KKK and the Neo Nazies and other white supremacists out there. What's cool, the non racist American population substantially outnumbers them all these days.

Dude, I don't cry demoziation or use the term against you like you do with me or accuse you of doing it a lot either. It would be nice if you were able to recognize and admit you did something bad and say your sorry instead of lying to me and denying that you did anything wrong. It would be nice but it doesn't seem to be in your nature these days. You're not alone, the liberal side has a major problem with it these days.