Let's Tell-all about Tulsi

[Eric the Green]

(02-05-2020, 05:16 PM)Marypoza Wrote:

(01-31-2020, 01:02 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(01-30-2020, 08:49 PM)Marypoza Wrote:

(01-30-2020, 03:30 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(01-29-2020, 09:30 PM)Marypoza Wrote: -- what fake news?

Apparently the first gas attack in 2013 was saran gas. The second was chlorine, not saran. The fake news and propaganda comes from both sides. From the rebels, that the second attack was saran. From Assad and his apologists like Tulsi that the attacks did not happen or were caused by the rebels.

The article makes my point and seeks to clear up the distortions.

-- ok l thought u were referring 2 my receipts. NYT, the AP, CNN, Newsweek r generally accepted as sources. Thanx 4 posting that article. That is what l was talking about- the Govt bombs Assad's gas warehouse then comes 2 find out there was no evidence he used sarin gas. I didn't know about the chlorine gas, only googled 4 sarin. Still they only found 2 canisters, which is 2 canisters 2 many, but it's not like Assad is spraying the whole country with chlorine gas either. 1 of them was found on a bed. What makes u think IS didn't leave it there. The RN interviewed 4 the piece claimed they only treated treated ppl 4 smoke inhalation & rocket injuries the nite of that attack. The article also said the ppl living living in Damascus were getting tired of being shot @ by rocket volleys from Douma. So it's not like Assad vs the Syrian ppl as u claim. Evidently some Syrians don't like is either.. Like l said in the other thread Eric, there r no good players in the shitshow. They're gawdawful on all sides & we should just shy out of this mess

You need to cut yourself away from Tulsi and what she says about Syria. What's this about "the IS leaving it there?" Come on, the IS is in Eastern Syria and Western Iraq, what's left of it. The IS were a group of horrific killer gangsters who seized some open, mostly-deserted territory and wrecked havoc and terror. They have nothing to do with the fight against Assad, and never did. Assad invited them in so he could blame them. Again, you believe Tulsi too much. The rebels are not IS terrorists, and no they do not use poison gas. They don't have access to such weapons. They were merely the common people of Syria defending themselves and their right to speak. They lost, for now. Assad killed them or exiled them.

It is exactly Assad vs. the Syrian people, or at least it was for several years. It's not the Syrian peoples' fault that they were bombed out of their country and are not fighting there anymore. Only a few jihadis are left in a small north-western province now, as far as I know. The Free Syrian army and their people were the good guys. Tulsi is wrong; they were the good guys and Assad and his henchmen were the bad guys. That is definite fact. Anything else is pure propaganda. I know the facts. Tulsi DOES NOT.

I know Tulsi doesn't want the US to invade Syria, or Iran. That's fine. But the US has NOT invaded Syria. The West should have helped them more, but that doesn't mean we should have sent troops or made a major bombing campaign there. On the other hand, do I care if the USA bombed some of Assad's government buildings? Would I protest? Hell no!

The first gas attack in 2013 was sarin gas. The second was not, but you can't blame the Syrian people for thinking it was. It helps to know the facts and not propaganda and delusional lies from Tulsi.

Tulsi is a liar; she doesn't deserve your support. Bernie does; Tulsi does not. Don't get them confused. I have investigated her. Her voting record is to the right of Nancy Pelosi's. She is not a true progressive. She supports Putin's bombing of hospitals and schools. She supports Obama's drone attacks. She supports the war on terror. She is a Hindu nationalist who supports Modi and opposes Islam. She considered joining Trump's gang of thieves. She failed to vote to impeach him just for political purposes. She fails to supports people rising up for freedom and calls them terrorists. Shame on her! Tulsi Gabbard is not your friend. She is falling in the polls, and has been dropped from real clear politics' polling average. She discredited herself with all who have understood who she is, which is most voters. Much already posted here.

I am against cruel dictators wherever they are, and I root for the people rising up wherever they are. I support the rebels in Hong Kong, Iran and Iraq now, and those all over South America. The USA should not invade their countries or bomb them to change their regimes for them. But if they ask the USA and The West for aid, we should consider it. Allowing genocide to happen while doing nothing is wrong. 500,000 people being killed and millions forced out into Europe and other countries by a monster for no reason is our business. We are citizens of the world, and these were my fellow humans.

Sorry we disagree. I understand your point that we should avoid wars and taking sides in internal civil wars. I was passionately opposed to the US wars in Vietnam and Iraq and the US support for the Contras in Nicaragua, and I protested and wrote congress and the president against them. I campaigned hard for McGovern in 1972. I am against regime change wars.

-- so am I, which is why l support Tulsi wanting us 2 stay out of Syria. 

sorry it's taken me so long to reply 2 your rant Eric, but l didn't see it until now, being as it's tucked in between this side conversation that has developed here. Anyhow my comments were taken from that article you posted, not from anything Tulsi said

There's nothing we can do in Syria now, so Tulsi's rants are totally irrelevant. A few years ago the US could have helped the rebels for freedom with financial aid and stuff like that, but that's not "going in to Syria." There's nothing that can be done until the international powers agree to bring peace and freedom to the country and depose Assad, which would not be us (the US) not "staying out of Syria," but the world doing its job to rid the world of a horrible and deadly cancer named Assad who is directly responsible for all problems in his country, and for much going wrong in the world. Maybe it will happen, someday. But the USA can't, and should not, go it alone or with a "coalition of the willing" and try to depose Assad. Russia would be in the way anyway. And no-one is proposing this.

The Turks did an evil thing by attacking the Kurds because of an imagined danger to their country, and Trump did an evil thing by not protecting them. But the Turks are doing a good thing by stopping the monster from eating up the only free province left in Syria, and causing massive real problems for Turkey.