02-14-2020, 01:37 PM
(02-14-2020, 11:30 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(02-14-2020, 07:52 AM)David Horn Wrote: This election will set the direction of the Democrats for a long time, just as Trump's success has set it for the GOPpers. This will happen regardless of who wins the general elections, because a failed Democrat will invalidate that wing of the party -- especially true if a second Hillary-type makes the cut. But Bernie fans need to be a bit cautious too. He and they are selling a radical change, and failing to get the sale will doom that effort for the 2024 election -- a slamdunk if Trump is reelected this time.
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Doesn't this go against what the Kazin article says, that a failed candidate can set the direction for the party if (s)he brings in a new direction that inspires the people?
I think the Kazin article was addressing the intraparty struggle, so losing this round of primaries (again) may actually reinforced Bernie's vision -- especially so, if the moderate Dem loses to Trump.
Eric Wrote:It's true; Bernie as president could be overturned in 2024 if he fails to make any change.
The ability of the more radical Dems to actually make policy will be limited by the magnitude of their win. If Trump and GOP Senate crash and burn, it's game-on. That's less likely than a narrow win, though.
Eric Wrote:My indicator (the new moon before the election) says the challenger will win the popular vote in 2024, and that the incumbent will win it in 2020. But it's only one of several indicators. Our destiny and our future as a nation may require that some of my indicators are wrong this time, and maybe in 2024 too. Unless our destiny is to fail and screw up the world.
Amen to that.
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