Can The Economy Ever Be 'Good' While So Many Don't Have Walls?

[Bob Butler 54]

(03-12-2020, 12:24 AM)TheNomad Wrote:

(03-10-2020, 10:07 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Thus, your argument seems pretty irrelevant to me.

What, exactly, is my 'argument'?  Can you explain it?

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I was not disagreeing, nor debating, nor was I even attempting to perssuade, I think, however maybe not. 

I could copy and paste previous posts to explain, but is that aureatingly tantamount?

[1] Peradventurous

The ‘argument’ might be seen in two parts.  First is general.  Many conservatives seem to be tribal thinkers, caring more about their own groups than people in general.  One stereotypical group is the white, male, evangelical, Republicans, though there are many variations.  The opposite is into all men being created equal, resists government benefits from targeting only specific groups.

I see tribal folks as not wanting to talk about caring about all men equally.  I see it as a basic red blue difference.  I do not think we will bridge the pending crisis until the new values overcome the old, until tribalism is rejected much as kings, slaves and fascism were defeated in prior crises.  As in the prior crisis, the believers in the old values see nothing wrong with them, and want to stick with them.  They do not see how the history books, written under the new values, will portray them as badly mistaken.  

No democracy?  Slaves?  Dictators?  State racism?  War of aggression?  Tribal thinking?  All are comparably wrong.

Second, this thread is dedicated mostly to the homeless.  While the above might apply to several issues, this thread is dedicated to one.  I don’t see it as being solved so long as most people have developed some excuse to not care.  Thus, we must be aware of the elephants in the room.  We can not let them declare they are sick of talking about the new values, and stop speaking of them.

While some of the homeless may be free spirits, as illustrated by the song, may be homeless by choice, the bulk of them are not.  Therefore an argument based on free spirits does not speak to the issue.  It is just an attempt to press the old values, to ignore the people who most need to be addressed.