Homeless File Lawsuit Demanding Shelter Provision

[David Horn]

(03-12-2020, 08:09 PM)TheNomad Wrote:

(03-12-2020, 05:07 PM)David Horn Wrote: The problem with housing in California is simple really.  There is too little for too many and bad land use practice in the past has made creating more very hard and very expensive -- except where no one wants to live.  There's a lot of nothing in the high desert, but jobs are nonexistent there too.  I guess everyone can join the armed service of choice, and spend time at China Lake, 29 Palms, Fort Irwin or Vandenberg AFB -- among a host of others.   San Francisco, San Jose, LA and Sa Diego, on the other hand, are booked up, and the cost to live any of those places is more than these homeless folks can ever afford … but the jobs are there!

This is why California is losing population.  40 Million is just too many anyway.

Sharing personally, we all here should know meta solutions to these things.  We are living in the time when everything needs to be torn down and remade.  Patches and band-aids will not work.  It's a time for ideas looking forward to a new thing, not preserving the old one.

Mayor Pete was the only person close to expressing an ideology for a 4th Turning solution.

Pete was about looking backward to Great Depression I (as opposed to the one we are in now, GDII) and he saw an answer to this by government creating employment situations that are not, right now, being seen as viable.

He talked about employing the many who never recovered from 2008+ and said "we can put these people to work by investing in American infrastructure."  Is this some kind of revolutionary idea?  I guess it is for those who are not learning from the past.  America rose from GDI not by lulling compliance about "ok, let's just accept all these people without walls as OK and move on".

Well, no.  So many people were pushed out of the workforce by OLD jobs like manufacturing passing away.  They don't exist and that person has no other skills and is 45-50-60+yo and just moved in with family and fell off the radar.  Another had a very specific skill and training and work history, and his job went to India, he has no other skill, he received unemployment for as long as it lasted, then moved out of apartment to live with sister. 

*by the way, when someone exits the "workforce", their presence as American Job Force becomes invisible.  They simply are no longer counted as being part of the number.  Then, a president says "look, we have the lowest unemployment rate in the history of mankind" but all these "shadow people" who never returned to the workforce are invisible.  That number is not real.

What would happen if the crumbling roads and bridges were addressed?  They were built back in the time of GDI by people who were mass unemployed and then were put to work.  The infrastructure was built, people had jobs, they could afford rent/mortgage.  Pete was the only person coming close to this concept.

Home Health Aides.  People are already caring for sick and elderly family.  Why not EMPLOY them to do so?  It can't happen until healthcare is fixed. 

This time of Crisis is not easily addressed.  But we, here, should know better.  I'm still shocked there will be two ancient men vying for power over America, and neither one is looking to the future.  Both are relics of what once was. 

We know this will all be washed away.  What can we do to help that come faster?  I feel like, we have to open our minds to change and be available to that concept.  Many say they are but I'm not sure.

What happens when so many ppl living on the streets right now are offered the opportunity to work for a government program where it also invests in our infrastructure in the myriad of ways we need right now?  What happens is, they work, they are able to rent/mortgage, they spend money, the Economy moves.

Why can no one see we have a blocked bowel and that thing is gonna hurt until it's pushed the f out already.  Flush it already. 

I'm saying resistance to change is why these problems remain and linger.

Agreed that we have many people in the shadow workforce who are not working "a job", but are contributing nonetheless.  They also tend to be underpaid and unsupported by the social structures of the country.  The government is the correct go-to for help, but some of that help will involve encouraging and assisting people to relocate.  Many of those who are able to do so are doing it on their own. 


Then there is the issue of job skills.  We can't run a country with transitory jobs and mandatory retraining every 10 years of so.  People aren't built that way.  We need to create generic skill sets that fit a variety of jobs, and force employers to fit the job to the worker, not the other way around.  The coronavirus pandemic may actually force that to happen.