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The fixed system is a variant of S&H, with boomers portrayed negatively and the younger stereotypes positively.  Things will allegedly get better when the boomers go away.  This is opposite of S&H where the portray each generational stereotype positively as well as viewing the Crisis configuration especially as constructive, and multiple stereotypes meshing well.

No, it is not a personal hatred, but more like how the red and blue treat each other generally.  Many cling to one perspective and distrust the other.  I know I at least do not apply the S&H stereotypes in personal life.  There are real people out there, and I would be very reluctant to assume they have specific traits until they are demonstrated.  But if people believe in small government, cut taxes, and the other common Red patterns, the familiar elements of confrontation come out.  You have similar confrontational elements with respect to the generations.

You are not really alone.

World views come in many flavors: political, scientific, religious, etc…. I am or try to be more scientific, though there are certain questions that cannot be verified so easily.  I assume, for example, that all men are created politically and legally equal, but how does one prove something so abstract?  I just find the political systems I like tend to make the equality assumption.  But there are so many more concrete questions that can more easily be checked.  If you can check them, you do.

One thing I find is that certain easily verified things just bounce off you.  For example, If your understanding of the S&H generational stereotypes and generational alignments are challenged, you just ignore the challenge and continue to discuss your system as if the problem had not been pointed out.  The habit of ignoring verifiable fact and just repeating your fixed system does not speak well of your ability to learn.

But in this you are hardly alone.  In talking guns, you get some people who will insist that prohibition will work this time.  When the talk is about the economy, other people will insist that this time voodoo economics will not inevitably collapse after about seven years in.  When talking religion, some people are dedicated to the Bible being literally true, and throw away whole branches of science and politics if they contradict.  People buy into weird alternate realities.  The Fox News perspective is just one of the more famous.  Your own system is one of many that has this flaw.

If you aren’t dedicated to scientific fact, that you verify as much as one can against reality, you get into trouble.  That you do not do this habitually, that you detach yourself from checking against reality, seems a problem.  Too many people will these days.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.
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debate - by TheNomad - 03-15-2020, 09:25 PM
RE: debate - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-15-2020, 10:10 PM
RE: debate - by TheNomad - 03-15-2020, 11:17 PM
RE: debate - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-16-2020, 06:00 AM
RE: debate - by TheNomad - 03-16-2020, 07:05 PM
RE: debate - by TheNomad - 03-16-2020, 07:36 PM
RE: debate - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-17-2020, 03:56 AM
RE: debate - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-16-2020, 07:48 PM
RE: debate - by Eric the Green - 03-16-2020, 11:15 PM
RE: debate - by TheNomad - 03-17-2020, 03:46 AM

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