"Pro-life"? It's about control of women.

[David Horn]

(03-17-2020, 10:17 PM)Dewdman42 Wrote: Well the law is currently that any woman can choose to have an abortion for any reason, moral or immoral.  That is separating law from the moral question, and allows millions of women to act immorally if they so choose.  To date, 65 million babies have been aborted in America, reportedly.  Do you honestly believe all of those were done for a reason that could be considered moral?

If there is any legitimate morality here, it should be codified into law.  That very well could be: Pro-Life, unless the pregnancy occurred due to Rape; and many would agree with you, but just saying that we'll leave it to each woman to decide whether to kill a baby or not, is an immoral law according to Pro-Choice advocates.

I will state again, women want their cake and eat it too.  They want full freedom to choose to abort, yet full ability to hamstring a father under the responsibilities they are choosing.  This is not fair.  Step one should be to equalize the fairness for men so that they have the same option to opt out of parenthood.  The rights then fall completely to the mother to decide with her pro-choice what she would like to do.  She can consider her own sense of morality (currently) to decide, but the man should not be forced to abide by her moral terms.

If you want to force parenthood onto fathers for whatever moral reasons you feel are legitimate, then mothers should also be forced under many circumstances to be a parent, ie...abortion not allowed.  Unless in the case of proven rape, a mother that doesn't want to abort could opt to try to collect $$ from the rapist, but as you said, good luck with that.

H-m-m-m.  This is a mixture of pro-life evangelism and well, I don't know what.  Forcing anyone to be a parent is problematic, but, ultimately, it is the woman who must carry the fetus to term, and it has to be her choice to abort, if there is a choice to be made.  If we men start carrying that burden, then it will be our choice -- but not until then.