Quarantine Shaming and Emergence of Groupthink

[Bob Butler 54]

(03-23-2020, 05:58 PM)TheNomad Wrote: You've read a lot (or at least responded to) what I've written in this forum.  You would say I don't understand the Strauss Howe concepts?  Like, not in a smarmy way, you sense academically I don't understand the material?

Correct.  Notably you have a bad opinion of the Boomers, the latest Prophets, while S&H were enthusiastic about the Prophet - Nomad - Hero configuration of the Crisis.  Also you seem to think something positive will come when the Boomers phase out, but the Nomad -  Hero - Artist configuration of the High is portrayed by S&H as a lockdown, passive, don’t change the culture turning with infrastructure building.

Now I could agree with some of that.  The blue boomers did see most of the flaws they yelled about fixed in the Awakening.  The red boomers were very different, tried to roll back things, but were generally blocked from doing so.  The net effect was stalemate, that little would happen when the Boomers were around.  This is not optimal, but it is not S&H either.  Well, they did say that Unravellings are supposed to be about compromise, two sides putting conflict off and lots of across the aisle fighting.  We certainly did enough of that the last several decades.

And with nukes making the Crisis War obsolete and more being done with the legislature, I was starting to anticipate that there would be no Trigger or Regeneracy during this Crisis configuration.  Thus, the transformation was apt to come later, say in the Awakening, same as in the 1960s.  So the idea of a late transformation was one I was wide open to.

But if you assume the Coronavirus is the trigger, that goes away.  That would put us much more back in line with the Industrial Age S&H pattern.  We look to be heading towards a transformational Crisis, and a stagnant High, more what S&H predicted.

So you are handing out pitch forks and halos where S&H were more into just halos.  I will grumble about the red Boomers all you like.  I just don’t expect much of the High configuration.  You would have to define them better and suggest what they are going to do other than poof magic make all the problems go away.  If you don’t come up with something good, I would anticipate the S&H lockdown with infrastructure building.