Open By Easter

[Bob Butler 54]

(03-25-2020, 10:40 PM)TheNomad Wrote:

(03-25-2020, 09:47 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(03-25-2020, 07:48 PM)TheNomad Wrote: Does no one see an argument for at least saying hopefully that we will be back by Easter?

Not me.  You have to beat this one down to nearly nothing before releasing the isolation.  Even then there will have to be some sort of monitoring to send isolated hot spots back into full isolation.  I know of no planning for what happens when they do reach nearly nothing.  I would watch the smart thermometers for the occasional outbreak, set up a network of so many people who volunteer to take their temperature with a networked thermometer once a day, and figure out how to isolate hot spots.

But it may be that we have to wait until a vaccination can be developed, and that is at least a year out.

On the surface, I agree with you.

What happens if/when our entire way of life comes down because we are so indelibly tied to Economy?

Is there even a chance we return for Business, and a million die, but we still survive as a people?

I think a year of THIS will destroy America.  But I cannot think of an alt that makes sense currently.

I do, however, believe in a "positive" thought at least, that we WILL get through this.  I don't hear anyone taking that route.  I also do not hear anyone realistically addressing IF WE DO NOT "open up" we could be destroyed and what good will all this have done?

When we start to reach nearly nothing, we will need plans and precautions to keep it there.  This might include thermometer testing before you enter a store or place of work, testing stations in case they do find a temperature, isolation locations so you don’t contaminate your family, a surplus of test kits, protective gear, etc…  I’m sure people could come up with other ideas.  I'm sure we will need them.

But right now the active front is getting near nearly nothing.  There are still enough people trying to live the old normal that it seems silly even to think of the nearly nothing situation.  There are still people doing Mardi Gras and spring break as usual.  There are still states without isolation orders.  As long as full isolation is not in place, we will not need to wonder about the almost nothing situation because case numbers will still be exploding.

A few more weeks or months of the virus will teach us how to perfect isolation and have most respect it, but having Trump saying “economy released by Easter” and similar hasty ‘the virus will not be a problem soon’ things is a problem.  A killing problem.  As long as people are in the Unravelling mode and trying to deny the Crisis, the Crisis will sustain itself.

And keeping the economy going while in isolation might require as much innovation and effort as the medical community is going through.  I am thinking back to my working days, and a lot of stuff in many phases could have been done at home.  But, in my case the hardware guys eventually developed prototypes and needed to do assembly and parts, and the software engineers needed to test on said prototypes.  In some projects, these prototypes were much bigger than a breadbox.  In one project all work was supposed to be done in a Secure Compartmented Information Facility.  Yes, a SCIF.  Remember the one Congress used for the impeachment?  Ours included a couple of room sized faraday cages to keep the bad guys from listening in on what we were doing.  There seems to be limits on what some industries can do.  I for one could not afford to build a faraday cage equipped SCIF at home.

More immune people who have had the virus and are clear will help.  Stick these people in the most exposed positions.

In short, I could see ways of getting through this.  It will require a lot of effort.  The people who scoff and try to escape this effort are currently making it worse.  They seem to be as much of a problem as the virus itself.