03-31-2020, 03:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-31-2020, 03:25 PM by Eric the Green.)
(03-31-2020, 02:49 PM)Ghost Wrote:(03-31-2020, 10:30 AM)beechnut79 Wrote:My guess is that a lot of reactionaries (the pagan right, identitarians, etc) and radicals (Antifa, the "blue-haired freaks", etc) will ultimately falter overtime. That's probably the #1 sign that the 4T is coming to a close.(03-31-2020, 12:07 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:If what you are predicting does occur, might said right wing resurgents end up being blacklisted during the coming 1T much as communists and their sympathizers were in the last 1T? Might we see the end of the days of extreme corporate supremacy? Do hope so.(03-30-2020, 10:13 PM)beechnut79 Wrote:(03-30-2020, 07:38 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Generation Z, people born in 1997-2002, will eventually become called Millennials. Any name based on the current crisis will not stick.I would put the cutoff for Millennials at 2000 or 2001. The most logical start date for them is 1982 as they would become of age for just about everything except drinking at the turn of the millennium. And while on that subject, do you think we’re see another movement to lower drinking age anytime soon. The US is just about the only place in the world that sets its minimum age at 21.
The peak of the Fourth Turning will come in 2025, and the climax in 2027.
The coronavirus crisis will be a prelude to a reform period that will end Reaganomics, so that the issues of our time can be addressed.
A Democrat will be elected to the White House in either 2020 or 2024, and if Trump is re-elected, a tsunami of sixth-year midterm democratic votes for congress will make him or Pence a virtual figurehead.
Danger of war in Asia increases in Dec. and Jan 2020, and danger of US intervention abroad in 2024-26. Secession or civil war is possible in 2024-26.
If Trump is voted out, he will resist, and if Trump is re-elected in 2020, the left-wing will resist. A right-wing rebellion will get violent by 2025 if the Democrats are in the White House.
China will undergo another challenge to authority in 2033, bringing an international crisis in 2035-36.
A new Awakening, much like the previous one, but less explosive or reckless, will begin in the mid-2040s.
Do you feel that the biggest health related crisis in over a century may amplify both our emotions and our intuition, if it hasn’t done so already? And would both the emotional and financial carnage have been much worse if this had occurred in the pre-Internet age when very few could have performed their jobs from a home base?
The Homelander name seems the most logical for those born after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. But the current crisis has caused for more retrenchment than either that event or the financial crisis of a few years later. Some are ready talking of being in a second Great Depression. You often mention a cycle of 84 years, which would now put us at the equivalent of 1936, right around the height of the dust bowl period. Most likely the year 2025 will see some event as shattering as was Pearl Harbor. But we have not yet seen anything approaching the New Deal type mindset occurring.
Even prior to COVID-19 there were so many who felt like they were being overwhelmed and just wanted to walk away from others and situations. A prelude to social distancing mandates? The increased stress loads were unexpected by futurists of yore who all but promised us a society of ever increasing leisure. Many have thought to have explored escaping through addictive habits such as drugs or alcohol even though they are not nearly as mainstream as they were during the last Awakening. New reports are suggesting that we could have to remain in social distancing mode for approximately five weeks. Am wondering what you see here?
This pandemic has officials drawn to take actions in new and maybe unorthodox ways. The old tried and true method may no longer have any hold on them, including Trump, who has realized that his idea of getting back to normal by Easter isn’t practical.
As far as the old ways no longer being practical, I am guessing that the coming decade will see us chucking it/them out and forging new paths. A funeral service for Reaganomics?
The Green New Deal mindset is out there. If events force us to adopt sterner measures against the powers that be, it could be enacted to one degree or another. This pandemic may last longer than 5 weeks, and it may not be the last crisis of this 4T to force lawmakers to take steps on the scale that they just did, with even a right-wing president signing on. I'm not convinced that the events of the next decade will not include more and different such crises. Reaganomics will indeed die off, except among right-wing rebels that will still stir up a lot of trouble. But if the Democrats run the state, they will beat them off.
Yes, the end of the days of extreme corporate supremacy, at least temporarily. They will make a comeback later in the 1T, and then be challenged again in the late 2040s Awakening.
Right wing reactionaries are far, far more violent, and far more powerful, than left wing radicals (antifa being mainly defensive, challenging right-wing rallies, riots and speakers), and they will have to be defeated by a government army, if Democrats occupy the White House. I would not called them pagans or identitarians, per se; they are racists, anti-welfare, anti-immigrant, pro-gun, anti-tax, anti-abortion/Christian fundie. But yes the defeat and decline of these reactionaries and radicals will be the sign that the 1T is starting.