When Did The "Crisis" Begin?

[Bob Butler 54]

(03-31-2020, 07:31 PM)Ghost Wrote: Precursors to 4T: Waco siege, Oklahoma City bombing, Columbine shooting, USS Cole bombing
Gray area from 3T to 4T: 9/11 until 2008 crash
When it absolutely became 4T: 2008 Crash
When peak 4T started: Trump v. Hillary election
Epicenter of 4T: Coronavirus

If the Epicenter is the equivalent of the Crisis War in the Industrial Age, I could agree with that.  By epicenter do you mean when the Trigger and Regeneracy begins?  Trump marks the last president, equivalent to Buchanan or Hoover, that precedes  the Trigger, Regeneracy and Grey Champion.  Thus, I put him at the last moment of ugly.

It seems the Crisis before the Trigger and Regeneracy is a lot like the Unraveling.  Both sets of values are presented.  There are lots of debate, compromise and perhaps stagnation.  The trigger is when the progressive values triumph and the old values step into the background.  They may resurface in a new form during the High.  For example, the KKK and Jim Crow made a comeback after the Reconstruction and Black Republicans.  But McCarthy and company represent how the Nomads usually see the new values stomp on the old.

I would add that we seldom agree with on what specific event is the Trigger, even with a century or more of 20 20 hindsight.  When did the compromises and debate before the US Civil War end, and the conflict becomes inevitable? Harper's Ferry? The election of Lincoln? The shots at Fort Sumter? The exact Trigger might depend on what aspect of history the historian cares most about.