COVID-19 is the climax to this 4T

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(04-13-2020, 05:41 AM)Isoko Wrote: I think that Eric is fundamentally speaking living in the past. Eric has what I called a leftist messianic version of the future where everything is eventually going to be great and liberal. I would argue that this is further from the truth and that the liberalism of the past is going to heavily decline in the coming decades.

I agree with him though that gay marriage or abortion is not going to be overturned but I would say that people are going to become more centrist rather then right or left wing. People are fed up with the left and more sympathetic to the right these days yet not willing to go down the full conservative path either.

Even still, the whole idea of a globalist universalistic society is just that. A pure fantasy. It is about as realistic as the great technological age of flying cars that awaits us. Or the space colonies we are supposed to have anytime soon now. It just will not happen. Atleast for hundreds of years.

There will always be people. There will always be different ideas and ways of doing things. There will always be hatreds and paranoia. In fact I will make a solid prediction and say that the next major war will occur when civilisation gets bored again.

If you look at the dynamics of 1914, society became bored and wanted excitement. People actually celebrated not as hatred but as a change to the status quo. Right now people are still entertained but give it 100 years and when the current technology becomes the same old, they will start to dream of more fantastical destructive ways to elevate the boredom. As is history.

Response paragraph by paragraph:

P1:  I too have often been accused of living in the past as well and, even though I never really espoused the hippie mindset of the time, I definitely feel that at least some of that peace and love mantra could be useful today.

P2:  I somewhat disagree on this one as it appears that sympathy for the devil on the right is on the wane giving the increasing concern over increased income inequality and other related maladies.

P3:  Another popular opinion of that same time frame which went awry was the one that the technology that most of us now kneel at the feet of would drastically shorten workweeks and have ever increased amounts of leisure time. Since the late 1970s the opposite situation has developed where most are actually working more rather than less. Do any of you think we’ll ever see that world of increased leisure we were once all but promised?

P4:  Guess I will just have to drink to this one.

P5:  1914 was right around the time the automobile age began in earnest although not fully accelerated until after WWII when the middle class exodus from urban centers occurred. The oil shocks of the 1970s called our auto dependency into question with the gas shortage which itself was highly questionable. But not much has changed in the nearly half century since.