04-15-2020, 12:13 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-15-2020, 12:16 AM by Classic-Xer.)
(04-14-2020, 09:12 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Progress is a collective thing; it applies to the general state of the nation and the world. We were speaking about what "progressive" means. It means progress.A progressive as you say should be ahead of me. A progressive as you shouldn't prefer minorities over whites. A modern progressive should have NO racial preference. A progressive shouldn't ignore or remove laws that pertain to illegal aliens only. Now, you can use the term and pat yourself on the back too and tell me how great you are because you're a progressive and I'm a lowly conservative and all that. I don't care and the other side doesn't seem to care either.
You are a conservative, which means that you are opposed to "looking to empower government to give... or provide", and you believe anyone who is a liberal must be looking for this. And you and your fellow conservatives of today don't want to be on "the hook financially" for those who are not better "than me" and want to be empowered by the government. This philosophy today is called neo-liberalism, so you are a neo-liberal. It means support for "free enterprise" as the only or principal basis of society. Neo-liberal means classical liberal in economics, legislated and enforced.
I and other progressives disagree. Yes, I blame you guys for the lack of progress in our country. By opposing government action to help those who need it, you elect Republicans who also oppose regulating business against pollution and climate change, who also oppose requiring business to pay fair wages, and who support condemning people to bankruptcy who can't afford health care. You don't realize, as a conservative, that it's not about you or me and whether an individual is better or more self-reliant than another. When we contribute to the state and provide help to those in need, we help ourselves, and provide safety for ourselves against capricious powers, and this and not trickle down economics for "job creaters" is what creates prosperity for all. Dog eat dog social darwinism and survival of the fittest and most well-armed does not provide this. It provides a banana republic.