04-16-2020, 09:55 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-16-2020, 10:37 AM by Blazkovitz.)
(04-14-2020, 12:11 PM)Isoko Wrote: P.1 Yeah I would estimate that a Trump victory would become the new norm for the Republican Party. In essence it is becoming the party of the white demographic in America.
In this case the Republican become unelectable since pure-blooded Whites will be a minority in America.
Quote:With the Democrats, if Trump wins, there is a huge debate on who will take over next. The split up is between the more centrist Kamala Harris and that wing or AOC and the far left wing. Considering how extreme American politics is going, I would wager on AOC making a run.
Makes space for a third party, standing for civilized values, rejecting both ethnocentrism and false morality of SJWs.
Quote:P.2 I think that a world state is unlikely to be honest. I could see international cooperation eventually but we have been down this road before and it never seems to work in the long run.
Democracies cooperate well, it's the dictatorships that don't. For the same reason policemen cooperate well, but criminals cannot trust each other. Despite all their shortcomings NATO and the EU are way more effective than the UN ever was.
Quote:As for the world state, I think Emperor Palpatine would be a worthwhile allegory in all that would go wrong. Personally so prefer a multitude of powers to keep the balance rather then one state too. Imagine having laws in place I don't like. I can't move anywhere else because it's the same law of the land.
That is why I enjoy national diversity. It keeps things in the balance.
Even more balance would exist if there was no nations, but only tribes of few thousand people, as in the Stone Age. Why don't you aim at this ideal?
Quote: Should we all have the same feelings and emotions just for the sake of security? I think not.
Eliminating pathologies that lead to crime doesn't mean that "we all have the same feelings and emotions". There are many types of healthy personalities. Research the Enneagram, MBTI or Big Five.
Your argument could be used against curing physical diseases. Cancer is a form of body diversity. And giving the deaf the ability to hear destroys their deaf identity. Some Leftists say this in earnest.
Quote:P. 4 Actually it had nothing to do with democracies as the other powers had plenty of skeletons in the closet. The British Empire did many atrocities and the Boer War is one perfect example. First concentration camps in the world. Under a Democracy. Or what about the trail of tears? Or the various massacres that have taken place? What about Dresden?
I'd still live under the British Empire than under the Nazis or Bolsheviks, or under Xi Jinping. For every victim of a democracy you can find many victims of tyrannies.
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MURDER.HTM
All recent governments guilty of mass murder were ranked "not free" in the Freedom House report. Should be obvious.
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DEFINI...RACIES.HTM
Even dynastic autocracies, which are not as bad as Nazism or Bolshevism, produce leaders like Louis XIV or Ivan the Terrible. The dynasties were overthrown by democrats. If they came back, they would no doubt learn to be more ruthless to dissenters.
Quote:Democracy is a very bad form of government and always eventually leads to caesarism and dictatorship anyway, as Oswald Spengler quite aptly pointed out.
So your argument is: democracy can lead to dictatorship, so it's bad, but dictatorship is good. I don't get it. Democracies degenerate when people lose interest in political participation. Lack of Civic values. Also, lack of Romantic values makes some people trade freedom for the illusion of security offered by a tyrant.