04-16-2020, 10:09 AM
(04-16-2020, 02:16 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(04-15-2020, 12:29 PM)David Horn Wrote: Here's a thought exercise. Society acts to disadvantage a group of people, and it does that over several generations. The disadvantaged group is now much poorer, less healthy and less able to change either of those conditions relative to the majority who weren't disadvantaged. They got where they are through no fault of their own, or the fault of their forebears either. What does society owe for the screwing they've gotten? Would you feel the same if you and yours were in that group?
I don't owe them anything. I didn't screw them. My ancestors won the war that freed them and me parents supported the party that ended Jim Crow. The Democrat party probably owe them something. So, how much of the wealth associated with your social security and medicare and your wife income and retirement do you want us to give them? You're on the side with all the guilt. The black folks on our side don't want it and oppose it. That's progress.
Actually, the greatest harm started long after the ACW was over. Much happened in the South (KKK and all that), but the North wasn't blameless. Let's take redlining as a good example. If you were not-white, you couldn't get a mortgage in a good neighborhood, and, in most places, no one would sell you a house in one anyway. So blacks, Latinos and other minorities got pushed into bad neighborhoods and high cost mortgages. Continue this practice for three generations, and you've bled those groups of any assets they may have accumulated. That was the dominant condition. Some escaped, but not many. Whites, on the other hand, got the good deals all along, and made a quantum leap after WW-II with the GI Bill. Veterans mortgages were unavailable to blacks in almost the entire country.
So yes, you and your forbearers contributed -- knowingly or not --to the mess that exists.
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