04-16-2020, 11:00 AM
Blazkovitz,
P. 1 The big question regarding America is if the various demographic groups can successfully mix together and build a new society. Looking at history, it can be the case but the process is usually a long, drawn out affair. With minimal immigration, it can be easily done but America has simply let in too many people to truly assimilate them all and make them good Americans in a short amount of time.
Also with the problem of class and wealth inequality which itself connects with the racial aspect, I cannot see America successfully standing together anytime soon. Yes, the Republican Party will become the white party, those various ethnic groups that identify with what I call white America will join it and this itself will be a catalyst for forming what I call the old America or new Republican nation down the line.
Liberal democracies are not very good at handling massive demographic changes on a short time frame. To keep such a nation in place, you need very hard right dictatorial enforcement to keep it together. It can work with such methods but you need to keep the economic opportunities available to the new population.
Otherwise you end up with breeding grounds of poverty and eventually you end up with new nations being created out of the collapse of the old Union like with the former USSR or the former impoverished people getting into power like with South Africa.
Now South Africa becoming a black governing majority is not necessarily a bad thing and I am fond of Nelson Mandela. He did actually save the country from a brutal civil war. Not only that but he actually revived an economy that was heading for an economic meltdown due to the apartheid government wasting money on WMDs which they didn't need and other military projects.
The problem is after Mandela, the ANC was filled with corrupt officials who just wanted to enrich themselves and the country has been deterioating since. What needed to be done was for true power sharing to have taken place and for the whites to have worked with the blacks in order to make a better economic conditions for South Africa. Instead it never happened, old hatreds remain, most of the whites have left and the corruption continues. Which is a damn shame because the rainbow nation had a good chance.
But this itself is a huge lesson and therefore it America's potential fate without some hard thinking required.
So looking at the current situation, what with a major crisis now brewing, I'd estimate an American separation into two or three new countries in about 20 - 30 years.
P. 2 A third party would be good but the problem is it would need to have alot of strength and right now American is split between the red and blue culture with no actual room for the middle. Only way you can have a third party be successful is if the country collapses and something new and strong arises out of the ashes. Otherwise it is going to be the same old tug of war.
P. 3 Actually Democracies do not cooperate well at all. They are very inefficient, lead to bitchy infighting all the time, invite different personalities and corporations that have their own nefarious agendas and always ultimately form into oligarchies. Democracy usually works when the money is rolling in but then the whole system struggles to maintain itself during times of real crisis.
To be honest, Putin's government functions better then the U.S government right now due to the fact that it is pretty much under one man. If Putin makes a decision, it gets done quickly. No need for courts to get involved, no need for panicking about votes, it just gets done. Take the Corona crisis, Putin pretty much shut the country early and that is why the cases have been minimises alot here.
In the Democracies? They are all struggling and starting to slowly break down because of the different factions involved in decision making.
Not saying Putin's system is perfect as no system is perfect. They all break down in the end. But that is life. I'm just saying that Democracy is just not the end result and that it can and will continue to break down until a strong man (or woman) puts it back together again. Then the cycle repeats.
P. 4 We could also say more balance would exist if Humanity itself did not exist but it does so why not actually try to preserve what we have and do the best we can rather then trying to force a one world solution? As Russians like to tell me, we will cooperate with global affairs but we still want to run things here in Russia and not lose our identity.
But to be honest, this whole march towards unity seems to be an American thing if I'm honest. Americans have always been obsessed with trying to build their own version of some kind of kingdom of heaven on Earth. Kind of like a manifest destiny. It is evident in you people.
But the rest of the world is not particularly concerned with it and are happy to go their own path.
P. 5 Treating diseases and destroying people's personalities for the greater good are two different things. And I would like to add that no matter how much you try to play around with nature, it always has a very bad habit of biting back.
P. 6 All Empires are tyrannies. The victors write history. If the Allies had lost WW2, we'd be criticising their empires and praising the Greater German Reich for giving us a better life.
You do realise that the British Empire has a higher body count then Nazi Germany, right? It was statistically proven recently. They even best the USSR, go figure...
As for freedom house? Do anyone take that website seriously anymore? I mean geez, you have more freedom to say things in Russia then you do in America yet somehow America, despite its politically correct ideology, is more "free".
Yes, yes, you will criticise it and go Putin, corruption, blah blah blah but hey, no system is perfect. But my point is, I don't have to watch my speech here. In Britain? Oh boy lol. One wrong word and that you was it.
Freedom house? I call it hypocrite house.
P. 7 My argument rests on that no system is infallible, there is positives and negatives to many systems, there is no perfect system and life will continue to rise and fall depending on what you have. There are golden ages and crisis periods. That is history. That is life.
P. 1 The big question regarding America is if the various demographic groups can successfully mix together and build a new society. Looking at history, it can be the case but the process is usually a long, drawn out affair. With minimal immigration, it can be easily done but America has simply let in too many people to truly assimilate them all and make them good Americans in a short amount of time.
Also with the problem of class and wealth inequality which itself connects with the racial aspect, I cannot see America successfully standing together anytime soon. Yes, the Republican Party will become the white party, those various ethnic groups that identify with what I call white America will join it and this itself will be a catalyst for forming what I call the old America or new Republican nation down the line.
Liberal democracies are not very good at handling massive demographic changes on a short time frame. To keep such a nation in place, you need very hard right dictatorial enforcement to keep it together. It can work with such methods but you need to keep the economic opportunities available to the new population.
Otherwise you end up with breeding grounds of poverty and eventually you end up with new nations being created out of the collapse of the old Union like with the former USSR or the former impoverished people getting into power like with South Africa.
Now South Africa becoming a black governing majority is not necessarily a bad thing and I am fond of Nelson Mandela. He did actually save the country from a brutal civil war. Not only that but he actually revived an economy that was heading for an economic meltdown due to the apartheid government wasting money on WMDs which they didn't need and other military projects.
The problem is after Mandela, the ANC was filled with corrupt officials who just wanted to enrich themselves and the country has been deterioating since. What needed to be done was for true power sharing to have taken place and for the whites to have worked with the blacks in order to make a better economic conditions for South Africa. Instead it never happened, old hatreds remain, most of the whites have left and the corruption continues. Which is a damn shame because the rainbow nation had a good chance.
But this itself is a huge lesson and therefore it America's potential fate without some hard thinking required.
So looking at the current situation, what with a major crisis now brewing, I'd estimate an American separation into two or three new countries in about 20 - 30 years.
P. 2 A third party would be good but the problem is it would need to have alot of strength and right now American is split between the red and blue culture with no actual room for the middle. Only way you can have a third party be successful is if the country collapses and something new and strong arises out of the ashes. Otherwise it is going to be the same old tug of war.
P. 3 Actually Democracies do not cooperate well at all. They are very inefficient, lead to bitchy infighting all the time, invite different personalities and corporations that have their own nefarious agendas and always ultimately form into oligarchies. Democracy usually works when the money is rolling in but then the whole system struggles to maintain itself during times of real crisis.
To be honest, Putin's government functions better then the U.S government right now due to the fact that it is pretty much under one man. If Putin makes a decision, it gets done quickly. No need for courts to get involved, no need for panicking about votes, it just gets done. Take the Corona crisis, Putin pretty much shut the country early and that is why the cases have been minimises alot here.
In the Democracies? They are all struggling and starting to slowly break down because of the different factions involved in decision making.
Not saying Putin's system is perfect as no system is perfect. They all break down in the end. But that is life. I'm just saying that Democracy is just not the end result and that it can and will continue to break down until a strong man (or woman) puts it back together again. Then the cycle repeats.
P. 4 We could also say more balance would exist if Humanity itself did not exist but it does so why not actually try to preserve what we have and do the best we can rather then trying to force a one world solution? As Russians like to tell me, we will cooperate with global affairs but we still want to run things here in Russia and not lose our identity.
But to be honest, this whole march towards unity seems to be an American thing if I'm honest. Americans have always been obsessed with trying to build their own version of some kind of kingdom of heaven on Earth. Kind of like a manifest destiny. It is evident in you people.
But the rest of the world is not particularly concerned with it and are happy to go their own path.
P. 5 Treating diseases and destroying people's personalities for the greater good are two different things. And I would like to add that no matter how much you try to play around with nature, it always has a very bad habit of biting back.
P. 6 All Empires are tyrannies. The victors write history. If the Allies had lost WW2, we'd be criticising their empires and praising the Greater German Reich for giving us a better life.
You do realise that the British Empire has a higher body count then Nazi Germany, right? It was statistically proven recently. They even best the USSR, go figure...
As for freedom house? Do anyone take that website seriously anymore? I mean geez, you have more freedom to say things in Russia then you do in America yet somehow America, despite its politically correct ideology, is more "free".
Yes, yes, you will criticise it and go Putin, corruption, blah blah blah but hey, no system is perfect. But my point is, I don't have to watch my speech here. In Britain? Oh boy lol. One wrong word and that you was it.
Freedom house? I call it hypocrite house.
P. 7 My argument rests on that no system is infallible, there is positives and negatives to many systems, there is no perfect system and life will continue to rise and fall depending on what you have. There are golden ages and crisis periods. That is history. That is life.