04-21-2020, 06:23 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2020, 06:25 AM by Eric the Green.)
(04-20-2020, 05:01 PM)Warren DewQuote: Wrote:Just keep in mind that what Eric sees as progressive is progress toward a socially liberal version of Stalinism.
Stalinism has nothing to do with progress. Most oppressive communist tyrannies are socially liberal to a degree. Every group in such a society is equally poor and oppressed, except the top functionaries. The state and its ruler wipe out all other distinctions and tribal loyalties. That has nothing to do with the progressive tradition in the USA and The West from the 1900s, 1930s and 1960s. Oppressive business tycoons and other neo-liberals use that "Stalin communism" slogan to disguise the fact that their own system is almost as oppressive, even though it claims to be "free enterprise." Opposition to progressives (whether they are what I see them as or not) is merely boosting the established authority, which in America is the oligarchical corporate elite. Progressives are democratic and pro-civil liberty; neo-liberals are often also cultural conservatives. Progressive movements are not opposed to genuine small-business free enterprise, and do not lead to state capitalism or total ownership of the economy.