05-02-2020, 01:48 PM
(05-02-2020, 01:14 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(05-01-2020, 11:45 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:Science takes time. Politicians take time. Bureaucratic establishments take time. Systems take time to adjust. While all that time is being taken, the entire money related system is losing money hand over fist. The State of Minnesota is about 5 billion in the hole or short as far as TAX REVENUES with no end in sight as far as the virus goes right now. We have a portion of the workforce out there working and interacting with people/customers and placing themselves at risk as we speak. In short, the shit ain't going away for years and the shit has most likely been around for longer than a month and a half. That's where we are at in my opinion. I think I probably already had it back in late December/early January. I'll let you know for sure whenever the tests that our governor and his team keeps telling us about as being here then telling us why it isn't here yet and then telling us it should be here in a week then extending it being here for another week or two and then extending it another month or so. The job of a doctor or nurse is to advise not dictate. The job of a scientist is to advise not dictate. The job of Democratic politician living of the wealth and success of an American based nation is to lead not follow and not speak to me while in a room with reporters and members of his team without wearing masks themselves. It's hypocritical and sends the wrong message and hurts themselves in the process.(05-01-2020, 10:22 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I'm not sure what the science says about how well masks work. It depends on the quality of the mask, at least. Many of them have to be cleaned after each use or replaced after each use. Because of that doubt, other measures have been taken as well by governments.
Yes. They are less than perfect, but good as part of a multi layered approach to isolation.
That seems to be the difference. If you value people more, you strive to apply as many of the forms of isolation as possible, stacking them to achieve maximum effect. If you value money more, you try to discredit the forms of isolation that get in the way of the economy. Thus, some let their political ideology get in the way of science, come up with weird conclusions that are the opposite of what most think.
That's right, and not a Republican politician either, such as Trump and Pence who declare they aren't going to wear masks. I wonder what you think about $2.2 trillion spent and yet businesses not getting the loans that they were promised, and thus clamoring to reopen. If the Trump admin had actually admin-ed this appropriation, then our country would not need to reopen so soon to keep the economy afloat. And if Trump and Co. had commandeered industry to provide masks and tests that are needed, and provided funds to local and state governments so they can test and track cases and pay health workers, funds which states cannot provide because they can't borrow and do deficit spending, then the shit would have been less and we might have been on a downward slope in cases and deaths now instead of 35,000 new cases a day and over 2000 deaths a day with no end in sight.