05-07-2020, 08:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-07-2020, 10:43 PM by Eric the Green.)
(05-07-2020, 08:13 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(05-07-2020, 07:38 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: You did not look on the worldometer. On my phone it's harder to post the link, but I have posted it before. Why aren't you checking it? Get with it! Wikipedia depends on volunteers posting from other sources. It is not the best source for immediate data. Why don't you know that? You are smart there's no excuse.
These wikipedia pages are updated more frequently than daily, so they are as up to date as I care about. In addition, they use consistent sources, which I don't think Worldometer does - I know Johns Hopkins doesn't - and the sources are in footnotes so I can track them down if I want to double check the data myself.
That said, I checked Worldometer and their trends match Wikipedia's - Georgia and Texas basically constant in new cases in the past month, and Florida falling. Worldometer does have prettier graphs, so I might be consulting it more in the future, thanks.
Quote:USA has something like 2,600 000 cases. The 2nd most infected country Spain has 260,000 cases. This virus is nothing less than full indictment of what happens when we turn over our country to trickle down libertarian policies. We are the epicenter of the virus. Republicans make abominable leaders and should pay the price!
The US has a lot more detected cases than Spain partly because we're bigger, but also partly because we have a better testing program. On a per million population basis, Spain has more deaths.
The wikipedia pages do not have up to date data. What I mentioned was what things were starting to be like, not what they were over the last month before today. That is the point you missed, due to your own wishful thinking. The point is that these states have Republican MIS-governors who have just started opening up their economies now, following Drump's wishes. According to the figures on worldometer today, they have more new cases than before, many more than Louisiana which has a Democratic governor and is proceeding more carefully. Louisiana was in the top 5 states and getting worse a month or so ago. Now it is 11th. Washington was first and is now 18th. Those states with responsible governors have declined relative to the other states.
The virus came on planes from tourists in Europe to New York and New Jersey and Massachusetts and spread from there across many states with people who travel and have money (mostly blue states). This happened because Trump did not stop or test people coming into the USA from Europe in time. Red states are more rural and poor and so did not get infected as quickly. So far India and China have far more people and far fewer cases because of the policies they pursued. The USA, UK and Brazil have the most new cases now because of their Trumpist policies and leaders. Sweden has more than its share because it did not lock down. Russia has the most new cases next to the USA now, but far fewer deaths, and far more testing so far.
I don't wish for the USA to catch up with Spain and the UK in total deaths per capita. But it probably will. Deaths take longer to happen than new cases. We don't have a better testing program than most EU countries. Our per capita or per million pop testing is lower than many of them.
Germany has had the best testing program in the EU, and has far fewer deaths and is declining in the "standings" among countries for cases. China, Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand, New Zealand, Australia and some European countries are having the smallest number of new cases and deaths now.
If you refuse to check worldometer, then your data is out of date. They have stats for the world, the USA, the states, and even counties within many states now. My county of Santa Clara, the first on the west coast to be infected, is doing well right now. Los Angeles is doing better now than it was, and so is New York. NY only had less than 4000 new cases today, after having about 10,000 a day for many weeks. And yet the total new cases per day for the USA is still at 30,000. So the virus is increasing in other places besides New York and California now.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
We'll see what happens in the coming weeks in the states that open up too soon.